No worries.
With decent stealth camping skills you can sneak into heaven in the afterlife.

no of course not, not if it is legal and socially accepted.

And on public land?

If it's legal I don't give two hoots if it's "socially acceptable".
Who the F decides what's socially acceptable? Take your morality and stuff it!

Poor souls who live up north. We don't usually see this level of vitriol for another couple of months.

Meanwhile down south, I got a 55 mile ride in today. Temps 55-60 F, but 15-20 mph winds. I wasn't sure it it were hot or cold.

Bless y'all's hearts!

Yeah, sorry 'bout that...

what does the law say about public/state owned land and camping?

um, society. the overall opinion of tax paying citizens.

In most states you're not trespassing unless a) There is a clearly posted no trespassing sign or b) You are asked to leave and refuse. So if there's no sign, and you encounter nobody, you have not trespassed.

Seriously? I mean, I know you're not lying, but that doesn't ring true. Perhaps my understanding is way off.

There is -- and always will be -- a grey area between ethical and legal behaviors. And there always should be.

I think that if you do something wrong without the owner's knowledge and without any effect, it is less unethical than if you harm the person. Not that it's justified, but there are degrees of wrongdoing.

It's true nonetheless. My read of the Georgia statute says I could even sleep in your parked car and not be guilty of a crime unless you have a no trespassing sign on it or ask me to leave and I won't.

https://law.onecle.com/georgia/16/16-7-21.html

This is one case (among many) where I'm happy to be wrong. The world is a nicer place than I thought.

If you enter someones land without permission and without legal excuse (emergency, etc.), it is trespass regardless of whether or not there is a posted sign. If you stealth camp on private property it is trespass and if caught you may have to suffer the consequences. In my younger days I did a lot of long distance hitchhiking and stealth camped often by absolute necessity. Once, I got caught but fortunately the landowner when he learned of my circumstances permitted me to stay. On a recent bike tour, I talked to local police who allowed me to stay at a public park. I also got permission to set up a tent at a grassy area at a truck stop. (That was a bad, noisy idea). The point is, that even though I would stealth camp if it were my only option, most times it is no big deal to seek permission.

Sweden have different laws regarding access to open natural spaces, Norway too.

Sorry for bringing the thread back on topic, but I have used the Sinewave Cycles Revolution USB charger and it works great for charging phones, including Apple phones, and for charging cache batteries like the Solio products or the Bushnell Solarwrap, both of which are also solar rechargeable. I take two Bushnells and charge one from the Revolution and hang one unwrapped to charge via the solar panel.

The latest issue of Make has an instructable on making a cell phone charger out of a AC bike dyno. If you are pumping DC it would probably just mean dropping a part. Looks simple and cheap, though I would try it first on something not too expensive.

https://makezine.com/projects/pedal-power-phone-charger/

Yeah, that is probably the reasoning that led to that extensive euro stealth camp 39-44.

More appropriately the cops often decide if they are paid by local tax payers, and will never depend on your vote, or think they are superior to you.

That might be the overlay, but there can be all kinds of local rules. In Ontario which in the inhabited portion is fairly well heeled, unposted is trespassing if it is agricultural land, fenced, etc... 65% of the US population supports drone attacks abroad, how anti trespass is the US really. Just don't get caught. Stealth camping isn't tresspass camping, but even if it was, it would hardly be stealth if you got caught.

It is pretty small bourgeois potatoes even if stealth camping does end up on someone's private property. Private property does not everywhere mean that camping is illegal. Which may be why so many places explicitly prohibit camping - because it otherwise would be legal. Then you get to the fact of what the rules are there for. It is a lot like copyright rules that were set up under the assumption that copying was a right and that there was a superior interest in having achievements distributed. However, this wasn't without limits. Today, the attempt is to ring fence everything, and deny everyone the use of anything they don't pay for. If you look back through the development of trespass laws, they often deal with damage, crops, etc... It was not an absolute right, as you will find if they decide to frack, under your property.

Anyway stealth camping doesn't mean trespass. The most common situation is that one can't tell who owns what. So behaving in a way that disturbs nobody, does not damage, no risks (fire), is a reasonable approach.

This is one of the reasons for stealth camping. Who knows what the rules are. Even asking for permission is questionable. I have been on the receiving end of that, and there was always a lot of hand wringing, hope the person wouldn't burn the place down, etc... That occurred after the person had left. It wasn't cost free for the landowners. Yeah, they wanted to be good guys, but at the same time probably most of those invites for dinner have less to do with you being so fascinating and more to do with getting your fed and evacuated without your burning the place down or leaving your waste all over it.

And of course, occasionally you get shot asking at the door. Imagine the mental anguish the shooter went through both before and after the event.

One of the places I have property, we can't even keep hunters off, they have a right to hunt private land. I'm pro hunting, doesn't mean I want hunters on my property. There are risks that it is far easier not to deal with, and they are the last of the great litterbugs, along with smokers. I'd say one time in 50 years running your chainsaw into a nail they put in your tree is enough reason not to want to have them on board.

https://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_111296/article.html

I have not yet had a chance to try it in the rain, but it has very little turning resistance and pretty decent pressure on the rim so I really doubt there will be a rain problem. If you are riding in deep mud there would be a sticky mess to deal with (at least if the mud came up to the rim, but then a bottle dyno would be sunk too. If you ride mud you need a hub unit. I ride almost entirely on road or gravel so no problems like that for me.

The Biolite does a few things really well, but not everything. It is not right for everyone or for every situation. It does really work though fir cooking and charging. It can put out a steady 5 watts at 5 volts. If you are out away from fuel sources for a week or more and cooking for a larger group it is a really good solution too. As a stove for 1 - 2 for a weekend, nit such a good solution.

We usually tour with a group of 8 and bring the Biolite for full meal cooking and also bring a small butane stove to make coffee and oatmeal in the AM. One canister of fuel gets us by for the week and the Biolite does most of the dinners.

Again, it is not for everyone but does fit some people's needs fairly well. The Velogical rim dyno falls into the same category; it will work well for some of us, not for others with different needs or preferences. I am just trying to get some info out there for those than might find it a good solution for their particular needs.

I am not sure this charger is going to work out. It says max voltage input 6v. Most dynos can put out way over that voltage and depend on the light itself to regulate over voltage. Use with caution. Maybe try out out first with an older phone you do not care about anymore on a big downhill and see what happens. Please let us know how it works out though!

Not true in U.S. states I've heard about. What country are you talking about?