Flat bar vs road bars
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What is more comfortable flat bar or road bars? I'm updating my Marin Novato, and need some help.
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For me, flat bars are ok for an hour or two but my hands seem to feel very uncomfortable stuck in the limited positions they offer (even with bar ends) when I'm riding all day. I honestly would find it torture to tour with flat bars. But that's just me. You'll hear different from others, I'm sure.
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I don't like drop bars. Give me flat bars with bar-ends (or something similar like a Brahma bar).
But I didn't find that out until I had tried both for awhile.
But I didn't find that out until I had tried both for awhile.
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Drop bars. Ditto to what Blackberry said. I need hand positions, and they provide me plenty. Just have to have them high enough so that I'm not putting massive torso weight on my wrists and thenar areas.
Sheldon Brown has a rather hilarious, ingenious, and functional Surly with both droppers and flat bars (and a Rohloff, and dual disc/cantilever brakes...that guy is excellent).
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/s...off/index.html
Sheldon Brown has a rather hilarious, ingenious, and functional Surly with both droppers and flat bars (and a Rohloff, and dual disc/cantilever brakes...that guy is excellent).
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/s...off/index.html
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I bought a flat bar road bike for commuting and found that I need/want more hand posisitons. I also wanted a way to get out of the wind more when needed. I put a clip-on aero bar along with bar ends... It looks rather hideous, but is very effective. I think I would be happier with drops though, and am planning to put some on this summer.
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Can't you pop some inline brake levers on your drop bars, then bring the drop bar a little higher and towards you a little so you can essentially use them like a flat bar if you want.
You can get the same hand positions with a flatbar and bar ends. But believe me, the first time you hit a 20 mile section of headwind, you'd be very glad you have your drops.
You can get the same hand positions with a flatbar and bar ends. But believe me, the first time you hit a 20 mile section of headwind, you'd be very glad you have your drops.
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Flat bars seem more comfortable for short trips and rides up to maybe 2 hours. After that the extra hand positions on the drop bars provide more comfort. One does not have to have drop bars very, very low. With a taller stem you can somewhat have your cake and eat it. You can be up high like straight bars on the tops and still get low for headwinds and speed. This is very comfortable on long tours or rides.
As slvoid says even if you only going 20 or even 10 miles in a headwind, you will love the drops.
As slvoid says even if you only going 20 or even 10 miles in a headwind, you will love the drops.
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flat bars for me ...
I used to have drop bars on my trek 520 and also more recently on my Thorn Nomad, but after swapping them for flat bars I find these more comfortable ...
pics of my Thorn Nomad and its development ...
everyone has their own taste and opinion in this ...
I used to have drop bars on my trek 520 and also more recently on my Thorn Nomad, but after swapping them for flat bars I find these more comfortable ...
pics of my Thorn Nomad and its development ...
everyone has their own taste and opinion in this ...
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I bought a Trek 520 last year and planned to go with the drop bars. I tried to make it work and tried some more but I never got comfortable with them. I finally switched to the flat bars and I am much happier. I plan to add some bar-ends this year.
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Drop bars here, it is a personal preference...like leather saddle or... I just got done switching my Giant Excursion over to drop bars from flat bars, much nicer for me to ride on the road now. Part of it may be what you started out riding. I rode drop bars on the road for over 15 years before I ever got my first flat bar bike. Rode cyclo-cross too with the drop bars.
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I've had no end of problems converting from drops to flat bars re setting-up and now numb hands. Now I have ditched the rubber grips as I think that they, being solid, tend to transmit road vibrations to the hands. So now have copied my usual way with drops ie foam grips covered with cork tape extending all the way up the barends and providing I hope sufficient hand positions. I think I'll thicken them a little at the transition of bars to barends with more tape. Here's hoping!
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I would go for a flat bar- you can get quite a lot of different hand positions with wide aerobar and also achieve a reasonable aerodynamic shape if you stretch out on them. Personally I don't really like drop bars.
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Has anyone used a "butterfly" -style handlebar? Are they any good?
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Flats for me. No problem doing big distances. Specialized Large grips, set of bar ends which I have not used much and a pair of cycling gloves.
Just could not warm to drop bars - at my stage in life I don't use the drops that much anyway.
Just could not warm to drop bars - at my stage in life I don't use the drops that much anyway.
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I have a bike with a drop bar, and it is okay for a short while, but after that, the place between the index finger and the thumb is sore from riding on the hoods. I don't use the drops much, and I don't use the top part much either, so it is like there is only one position for me, and it is is an uncomfortable one for me. I won't be buying any more drop bars.
Who makes that butterfly bar?
Who makes that butterfly bar?
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Originally Posted by hoogie
flat bars for me ...
I used to have drop bars on my trek 520 and also more recently on my Thorn Nomad, but after swapping them for flat bars I find these more comfortable ...
pics of my Thorn Nomad and its development ...
everyone has their own taste and opinion in this ...
I used to have drop bars on my trek 520 and also more recently on my Thorn Nomad, but after swapping them for flat bars I find these more comfortable ...
pics of my Thorn Nomad and its development ...
everyone has their own taste and opinion in this ...
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Originally Posted by ScituateJohn
Who makes that butterfly bar?
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I'm currently trying out a set of modified "Trekking" bars (similar to the butterfly bars above) that I got on sale form Nashbar for $12.00. So far I think this set-up is great. Another option to throw into the mix. Here are some pictures of how I modified the bars and the finished product.
https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/journ..._id=17715&v=3v
https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/journ..._id=17715&v=3v
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I'm curious.
Since I have used nothing but drop bars since I graduated from my balloon tire bike 4/1 2 decades ago (and 80,000+ miles ago -- would have been more but for military service and a total lack of roads at one point in our living situation) ago, I was wondering what it is about drop bars that people don't like or can't get used to.
Since I have used nothing but drop bars since I graduated from my balloon tire bike 4/1 2 decades ago (and 80,000+ miles ago -- would have been more but for military service and a total lack of roads at one point in our living situation) ago, I was wondering what it is about drop bars that people don't like or can't get used to.
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Originally Posted by geeklpc1985
What is more comfortable flat bar or toad bars?
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Originally Posted by supcom
I prefer toad bars because they are softer than flat bars and the eat flies and mosquitos in camp.
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Originally Posted by Juha
Has anyone used a "butterfly" -style handlebar? Are they any good?
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Originally Posted by sakarias
I'm curious.
Since I have used nothing but drop bars since I graduated from my balloon tire bike 4/1 2 decades ago (and 80,000+ miles ago -- would have been more but for military service and a total lack of roads at one point in our living situation) ago, I was wondering what it is about drop bars that people don't like or can't get used to.
Since I have used nothing but drop bars since I graduated from my balloon tire bike 4/1 2 decades ago (and 80,000+ miles ago -- would have been more but for military service and a total lack of roads at one point in our living situation) ago, I was wondering what it is about drop bars that people don't like or can't get used to.
Incidentally, flat bars are often seen as the =only= alternative to drop bars for more upright riding when there are other options that give the multiple hand positions of drop bars and the upright posture of flat bars. Flat bars really seem to me to be the worst of all worlds for distance riding, but some people manage with them.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
I think many people get road bikes that are fitted improrperly and/or poorly set up. When their hands hurt and they can't reach the drops, they blame the bars.
Incidentally, flat bars are often seen as the =only= alternative to drop bars for more upright riding when there are other options that give the multiple hand positions of drop bars and the upright posture of flat bars. Flat bars really seem to me to be the worst of all worlds for distance riding, but some people manage with them.
Incidentally, flat bars are often seen as the =only= alternative to drop bars for more upright riding when there are other options that give the multiple hand positions of drop bars and the upright posture of flat bars. Flat bars really seem to me to be the worst of all worlds for distance riding, but some people manage with them.
A racer wants to get his back flat and parallel with the ground for aerodynamics. It also takes a long time to adjust your body to this position. Not for me on a century. But I want those drops too. And the hoods for climbing. They work like bar ends for climbing, you are more forward.
Flat bars give you better control off road, that's what they were designed for.
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Originally Posted by sakarias
I'm curious.
Since I have used nothing but drop bars since I graduated from my balloon tire bike 4/1 2 decades ago (and 80,000+ miles ago -- would have been more but for military service and a total lack of roads at one point in our living situation) ago, I was wondering what it is about drop bars that people don't like or can't get used to.
Since I have used nothing but drop bars since I graduated from my balloon tire bike 4/1 2 decades ago (and 80,000+ miles ago -- would have been more but for military service and a total lack of roads at one point in our living situation) ago, I was wondering what it is about drop bars that people don't like or can't get used to.
I also don´t like the feeling of lack of control with drop bars.
Riding on the hoods gave me Carpal tunnel and this is something I have never experienced with flat bars.
The thin bar tape didnt help much with preventing vibration.
I also was distinctly unimpressed by the Ultegra STI shifters.
Halfspeed is correct that some of the above points may be due to incorrect fitting but the end result made me give up on them.
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