350 mile tour
#26
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A 50-60 mile day is far more reasonable and probably within the reach of most people but the only one that will know for sure is the rider.
I think that for a first tour, it is far better to wish you did more miles rather than regretting you have exceeded you limit and ruin the whole trip. There is always another tour out in front of you. Better to want more then come away hating the thought of another tour.
And you give excellent advice, you do need to prepare no matter what mileage you decide in the end.
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Hi guys thanks for all the replies I appreciate the thoughts, I apologize for posting this in the wrong place.
Regards to how much time I have to give for this trip I was thinking 9 days, but I just wanted to see what some of you more experienced guys think I would need time wise. More than anything this is meant to be something that I will enjoy, the journey there is what will be the fun part and the adventures that I will come across to get there.
350/ 9 is 38 so just to get there in 9 days will take 38 miles a day, to me that is very doable but that is not factoring in the fact that it is 38 over and over 9 times in a row.
If I average 50 -60Miles a day I will be able to be in Holland for a couple of days and this was the target I wanted to reach.
I will be fully loaded and plan to have a triple pannier (2X 36 litre side bags and 1X 15 litre top bag) although I have not planned what I will need to bring with me yet.
I am 21 and pretty fit, I used to live on my bike but gave it a rest for 3 or so years. In the past couple of months I have been doing 10 miles every evening after work and once a week I cycle to work which is a 46 mile RT.
I guess I was just looking for an insight to someone that has maybe done something like this and what it was like their first time, not only advising me on the physical side of things but also the mental challenge. To me this would be quite big thing as I haven't done something like this before.
Cheers guys
Regards to how much time I have to give for this trip I was thinking 9 days, but I just wanted to see what some of you more experienced guys think I would need time wise. More than anything this is meant to be something that I will enjoy, the journey there is what will be the fun part and the adventures that I will come across to get there.
350/ 9 is 38 so just to get there in 9 days will take 38 miles a day, to me that is very doable but that is not factoring in the fact that it is 38 over and over 9 times in a row.
If I average 50 -60Miles a day I will be able to be in Holland for a couple of days and this was the target I wanted to reach.
I will be fully loaded and plan to have a triple pannier (2X 36 litre side bags and 1X 15 litre top bag) although I have not planned what I will need to bring with me yet.
I am 21 and pretty fit, I used to live on my bike but gave it a rest for 3 or so years. In the past couple of months I have been doing 10 miles every evening after work and once a week I cycle to work which is a 46 mile RT.
I guess I was just looking for an insight to someone that has maybe done something like this and what it was like their first time, not only advising me on the physical side of things but also the mental challenge. To me this would be quite big thing as I haven't done something like this before.
Cheers guys
Both are excellent choices and up to you. And nothing says you can't do both. You are young and will have lots and lots of tours ahead of you. Maybe you do one tour where you take your time to see the sites, talk to folks along the way. Then the next tour you set a goal to be in a certain place in a specific amount of time with lots of miles per day. There are lots of choices.
And be prepared. Do you training and do that overnight I mentioned. An overnight really helps to shake out the buts of what to take and what to not take. How to pack etc.
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With those new parameters, I would say you have nothing to worry about. That seems like a very reasonable pace for someone so young and fit. My advice it don't fixate on the miles one way or the other. The most important thing is to enjoy yourself. Some people want to do lots of miles in a day, other prefer to take a slower pace, take time to smell the flowers.
Both are excellent choices and up to you. And nothing says you can't do both. You are young and will have lots and lots of tours ahead of you. Maybe you do one tour where you take your time to see the sites, talk to folks along the way. Then the next tour you set a goal to be in a certain place in a specific amount of time with lots of miles per day. There are lots of choices.
And be prepared. Do you training and do that overnight I mentioned. An overnight really helps to shake out the buts of what to take and what to not take. How to pack etc.
Both are excellent choices and up to you. And nothing says you can't do both. You are young and will have lots and lots of tours ahead of you. Maybe you do one tour where you take your time to see the sites, talk to folks along the way. Then the next tour you set a goal to be in a certain place in a specific amount of time with lots of miles per day. There are lots of choices.
And be prepared. Do you training and do that overnight I mentioned. An overnight really helps to shake out the buts of what to take and what to not take. How to pack etc.
I am thinking I may be doing a 60 mile ride to see my friend in Brighton so that should be good fun and I will see how I get on with that.
Thanks guys!!
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It sounds to me like you will be fine. I'd suggest trying your commute with a fully loaded bike a few times though, if only to get a good idea of how much of a difference in your speed the gear will make. And it really does make a difference. My own experience is that for a given amount of effort, loaded panniers can easily reduce my rolling average over a whole day by 2-4 mph. You might also find the need to change things about the bike's setup to make the load more comfortable, too.
But if you've been riding 10mi/day and commuting 46mi once a week, my guess is that you could load up your bike and start tomorrow and you'd be fine.
My one caveat is that if you really are going to try and average ~38 mi per day (and presumably avoid many days that are very much longer than that) it's going to be a lot harder to plan your overnight locations because you will have to find so many of them close together, but evenly spaced. In some areas it's fine, in other areas you might end up needing to do, say, a 70-mi day followed by a 20-mi day or something. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, either. Sometimes it's rewarding to do a longer, harder day and follow it with an easy rest day where you can lounge around, indulge, do something else. One of my favorite experiences from a tour my partner and I did a few years ago was that after about six long, hard days (mostly 90mi+) through the Rockies, we had a rest day where we rode an easy 20 mi in the morning, then spent most of the day soaking in the hot springs, then another easy 20 mi to our campsite with a big meal halfway through it. The day after that had the highest, longest climb of our entire trip and it was really nice to start it fresh. I so wish we had hot springs near where I live!!!
But if you've been riding 10mi/day and commuting 46mi once a week, my guess is that you could load up your bike and start tomorrow and you'd be fine.
My one caveat is that if you really are going to try and average ~38 mi per day (and presumably avoid many days that are very much longer than that) it's going to be a lot harder to plan your overnight locations because you will have to find so many of them close together, but evenly spaced. In some areas it's fine, in other areas you might end up needing to do, say, a 70-mi day followed by a 20-mi day or something. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, either. Sometimes it's rewarding to do a longer, harder day and follow it with an easy rest day where you can lounge around, indulge, do something else. One of my favorite experiences from a tour my partner and I did a few years ago was that after about six long, hard days (mostly 90mi+) through the Rockies, we had a rest day where we rode an easy 20 mi in the morning, then spent most of the day soaking in the hot springs, then another easy 20 mi to our campsite with a big meal halfway through it. The day after that had the highest, longest climb of our entire trip and it was really nice to start it fresh. I so wish we had hot springs near where I live!!!
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Another factor I didn't see mentioned is "mind set." For myself, it is one of the most important factors.
Last year I did my first, albeit short, tours. Prior to that I had never, not ever, rode more than 52 miles in a single day and never two days in a row. I did do a lot 25s 4 to five times a week though. First trip was 200 miles one way and my excuse was to see the grand kids. Second trip was 220 miles one way and my excuse was to see a sister I hadn't seen in years. Both times I found it was relatively easy to just keep plugging away. Longest day was 76 miles and I could have gone further. Some camping, some motel. BTW I am 68 y.o. and did it on a bike that most wouldn't consider a "touring" bike.
Go for it. Pack what you think you will need then cut it in half. Jump on your bikes and head out. You'll almost certainly have a great adventure.
Last year I did my first, albeit short, tours. Prior to that I had never, not ever, rode more than 52 miles in a single day and never two days in a row. I did do a lot 25s 4 to five times a week though. First trip was 200 miles one way and my excuse was to see the grand kids. Second trip was 220 miles one way and my excuse was to see a sister I hadn't seen in years. Both times I found it was relatively easy to just keep plugging away. Longest day was 76 miles and I could have gone further. Some camping, some motel. BTW I am 68 y.o. and did it on a bike that most wouldn't consider a "touring" bike.
Go for it. Pack what you think you will need then cut it in half. Jump on your bikes and head out. You'll almost certainly have a great adventure.





