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antokelly 03-12-14 06:57 PM

frameset to bike how to build
 
Whats the best utube or vimeo video for building up bike just bought the thorn audax 853;)frameset
if its delivered tomorrow i think i might start building it up.
i know how to do it but i just want to see how the experts go about it.
thanks.

Booger1 03-13-14 01:00 PM

There are no "experts" on Youtube.....:) Real experts are too busy actually making things.....instead of talking about making things.

Nice frame....

antokelly 03-13-14 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Booger1 (Post 16574801)
There are no "experts" on Youtube.....:) Real experts are too busy actually making things.....instead of talking about making things.

Nice frame....

:thumb:
you have a point there .

Mr. Thompson 03-13-14 02:48 PM

Park Tool has a tutorial.

Barrettscv 03-13-14 03:16 PM

I would work with a local bike shop. It's unlikely you will have the tools to instal critical parts, and buying every tool will cost more than having a pro do it for you.

fietsbob 03-13-14 03:22 PM

Got the components already? you keep the ones off the other thorn nomad that was too heavy?

http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/AudaxMK..._Audax_Mk3.pdf

once you get the crank and fork installed, and the wheels on hand,

the rest should just be the tools that you would use for on going service

bradtx 03-13-14 05:12 PM

antokelly, Whether it's a bicycle, house or a car the most important part is the planning. Knowing everything that the frame(set) will require to achieve your goal, including specialist tasks such as wheel building, facing/chasing the BB and facing the HT. youtube can help, but if there's one in your area, a bike co-op would be better, if only to re enforce a video.

Brad

antokelly 03-13-14 05:31 PM

I'll get there lads i have the gear just need a refresher thats all:thumb:

sstorkel 03-13-14 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by bradtx (Post 16575474)
Knowing everything that the frame(set) will require to achieve your goal, including specialist tasks such as wheel building, facing/chasing the BB and facing the HT. youtube can help, but if there's one in your area, a bike co-op would be better, if only to re enforce a video.

FWIW, all of the framesets I've purchased recently have been ready to build right out of the box. No BB facing/chasing needed, no HT facing, no seat tube reaming, etc. A good thing, too! I know my LBS owns the tools to complete those operations, but they don't use them often enough for me to feel comfortable letting them at my frame...

hueyhoolihan 03-14-14 12:49 AM

besides a BB tool, with a little luck, i wouldn't think you'd need more than a few hex wrenches and some common sense.

seeker333 03-14-14 01:12 AM

If it's steel, rust-proof the frameset first, before adding any components.

antokelly 03-14-14 05:54 AM

It's Thorns hand made Audax 853 :thumb: really beautifull frameset made in england,it would have been treated inside the frame for inner rust.i bought it from a lad on the thorn forum like spanking new,pity i cant post photos...thanks anyway folks just though you would have a favourate video on builds not to worry i still need a few parts to get her on the road so no hurry.
cheers
anto.

antokelly 03-14-14 06:48 AM

here you go lads this is my new baby.
TESTED: Thorn Audax 853 | Road Cycling UK

robert schlatte 03-14-14 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by seeker333 (Post 16576459)
If it's steel, rust-proof the frameset first, before adding any components.

Get some framesaver and spray it inside all the tubes following the directions. I then took my frame to my lbs who checked it for alignment, faced the head tube and bottom bracket shell and chased all the threads. They also pressed in the headset cups even though I had the capability to do that. I built the bike from that point on.

Bandera 03-14-14 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by antokelly (Post 16576742)
here you go lads this is my new baby.
TESTED: Thorn Audax 853 | Road Cycling UK

Very interesting frameset, for the Brevet minded.
Have fun w/ the build & post pics.

-Bandera

Tourist in MSN 03-14-14 10:20 AM

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Just start doing it. Getting stuff done in the correct order is nothing to worry about, if you do something stupid, you will figure it out soon enough. It is a good learning experience to get things a bit out of order.

But, three suggestions:
- If you cut the steerer, do not cut it too short, leave it longer at first because you can always cut it again later. My LHT and Thorn Sherpa have original steerer tube lengths, although the Sherpa might have been cut by the previous owner since I bought that frame used. My Nomad, I wanted that steerer cut down shorter but I intentionally cut it long, then cut it again, then a couple months later did the final cut. Cutting it 3 times is a little more effort but you won't accidently cut it too long that way.
- I ride a new build for a week just using strapping tape to hold the cables to the handle bars. Then after a week when I am certain that brake levers are exactly where I want them on the handlebars, that is when I put the handlebar tape on.
- Use blue locktite on all rack bolts. If you use a kickstand, also put locktite on those bolts Other bolts like water bottle bolts, etc., a little dab of grease on the bolt first makes it less likely that the bolt will vibrate and fall out.

Photo shows my Sherpa stem on my uncut steerer. Note that I have the stem inverted.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368721

If yours was made in the UK, it is several years old. Both of my Thorns were welded in Taiwan.

I did the Frame Saver thing with my Nomad, but the previous owner of my Sherpa did the Frame Saver treatment so I did not bother.

I assume it has the headset already installed, if not you might want to have a bike shop install that.

Anything unique to Thorn that you have a question on, check out their forum.
Thorn Cycling Forums - Index

fietsbob 03-14-14 10:38 AM

OK , highlighted in the roadUK page is the braze on with 2 closely spaced bolts, on the fork,

theres a UK touring bike, resold , in the shop, Here, I guessed there is a Bottle dynamo bracket to use that ,

My Question , from UK made bike owners what is it actually intended for?

antokelly 03-14-14 10:49 AM

thanks again folks.

Tourist in MSN 03-14-14 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 16577409)
OK , highlighted in the roadUK page is the braze on with 2 closely spaced bolts, on the fork,

theres a UK touring bike, resold , in the shop, Here, I guessed there is a Bottle dynamo bracket to use that ,

My Question , from UK made bike owners what is it actually intended for?

Yup, for a bottle type alternator. I use mine to hold two spare M5 bolts. You would want something like this too.
Thorn Stainless Steel Sliding Dynamo Boss - £4.07

fietsbob 03-14-14 01:06 PM

Cool, looks like it could also be another place to put a battery light , on a tube conversion to fit battery lights.

I have a braze on , on the hoop of my Low rider rack with a widget PaulsComp makes. for the summer just in case light.

antokelly 03-14-14 02:26 PM

i had a simular fitting made (PAUL) for my sherpa,made from stainless held 2 battery lights worked great.
great bike the sherpa bit overkill for my type of touring,thats the reason i went for the new audax going as light as possible.

Tapeworm21 03-14-14 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan (Post 16576433)
besides a BB tool, with a little luck, i wouldn't think you'd need more than a few hex wrenches and some common sense.



Here's tools I generally need for a frame-up build:
2mm, 2.5mm, 3mm, 4mm, 5mm, 6mm, 8mm allen wrenches
Head set press
Your glorious BB tool.
Truing stand
Spoke wrench
Phillips screwdriver
Adjustable wrench
Cassette tool
Grease
Pedal wrench
Needle nose pliers
Star nut installer
A hammer
13mm, 15mm, and 17mm cone wrenches
8mm, 9mm, and 10mm wrench
Crown race masher
Torque wrench
Felco cutters
Scissors
Bike stand

Just to rattle off a few tools needed to build a bike..... correctly.

Tourist in MSN 03-15-14 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 16577890)
Cool, looks like it could also be another place to put a battery light , on a tube conversion to fit battery lights.

I have a braze on , on the hoop of my Low rider rack with a widget PaulsComp makes. for the summer just in case light.

On the hoop on my low rider, I wrapped a strip of inner tube rubber around it, about a 3/4 inch wide strip, the length was what I needed to replicate the diameter of a handlebar. Put some tension on it when you wrap it so it stays tight on the hoop and does not shift. I put a short piece of electrical tape over it to keep it on. Then put the light bracket over that.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=368866

fietsbob 03-15-14 09:06 AM

mine is in the right side right above where the bag mounts .. out of wheel spray.

antokelly 03-17-14 02:35 PM

Well my lovely new Thorn Audax is now built up not quiet finished just need to change brake calibers for longer reack ones my campag are to short which means i can still stop but cant fit rack or mudguards brake arm gets in the way.
anyway its a cracking bike hopefully this will do me fine for all my touring .sorry i have no ideas how to post photos but theres plenty of photoson my facebook page and thorn forum.


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