Eugene OR - Crater Lake NP Or route?
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I have done it (unloaded) twice as part of two Cycle Oregons in the same conditons at the same time of year. First time we rode up from Daimond Lake, did the loop and rode back down to the lake. The second time we came up from Fort Klamath, did the loop and rode down to Prospect. I think the two trips prematurely aged me. I remember the first time feeling that I didn't even want to do the 12 mile descent back to Diamond Lake. I was that exhausted. The map for that day shows a total of 59.8 miles and 6,470' of eleveation gain, with four peaks of over 7,000'. I believe that includes the short out and back to Cloud Cap Overlook, which offers terrific views.
This is the only photo I have handy at the moment:
This is the only photo I have handy at the moment:
My whole point of this post, before I got on a ramble, was to complement you on the amount of climbing you did during that section of your tour. While I have done bits and pieces at different times; I have never done what you folks did in one ride. I can appreciate the effort.
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Bicycle Touring: Forum: Regional: North America: #5921: "Sierra Cascades - Windigo Pass", posted by Douglas Hintz on Tue 23 Aug 2011 10:36 (US/Pacific)
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I biked the entire loop around Crater Lake on a beautiful sunny day in early September. (I drove up to the park, however.) It's a gorgeous but exhausting ride because it's mostly up and down with some long climbs. I read that in the 33 mile loop around the lake, the total amount of climbing adds up to about 3,800 feet. Parts of the road are away from the rim with no view of the lake, but it's still wonderful.
If you go there I think it's worth hiking down to the water and going on a boat ride. Or at least numbing your legs in the water. I don't remember if there are any good places to leave a bike, though.
I thought the water would look normal when I got down near it. Nope, it kept doing that weird blue glowing thing.
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I ran the marathon there one year, most of the way around the rim. I tell people it was really hard. They ask if it was the altitude (8,000 feet or so at one high lookout). No, it was hard because of the hills! I think it would be easer on my bike.
If you go there I think it's worth hiking down to the water and going on a boat ride. Or at least numbing your legs in the water. I don't remember if there are any good places to leave a bike, though.
I thought the water would look normal when I got down near it. Nope, it kept doing that weird blue glowing thing.
If you go there I think it's worth hiking down to the water and going on a boat ride. Or at least numbing your legs in the water. I don't remember if there are any good places to leave a bike, though.
I thought the water would look normal when I got down near it. Nope, it kept doing that weird blue glowing thing.
The boat ride is well worth the cost. I believe there is a ticket office by the parking lot. There might be a place to lock your bike up there, where someone might keep an eye on it.
About 36 years ago--It can sleet and spit snow even in September. One old shirt
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As for another option to throw in the ring, when I bike from Crater Lake to Eugene last July, I rode 138 and then picked up "Diamond Drive", a 70 mile route of Forest Service roads that got me to Oakridge, and from there 58 into Eugene (mostly.) Diamond Drive is remote and scenic, but also features 20 miles or so of gravel, some of it a bit rough, but I found it mostly manageable with my LHT with 35 mm wide tires. It won't be everyone's cup o' tea, though.
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Derail3,
Hwy 58 has a substantial shoulder most of it's full length. So does Hwy 97.
There is a tunnel on Hwy 58 near Salt Creek Falls. You'll be riding in the uphill direction in this tunnel. There is no shoulder in the tunnel, but there are hazard lights to warn cars when bikes are in the tunnel. There's a button you push on the shoulder of the road just before you enter the tunnel.
Hwy 58 has a fairly substantial climb, but it'll be less than your other options.
There's a hot springs beside Hwy 58 about 10 miles past Oakridge. Big Mountain Cafe in Chemult has good breakfasts. The Pilot truck stop in Chemult has showers. There's a snow park just before Chemult with a day use warming cabin and outhouses that could make a good campsite. There's also many options for setting up camp off the highway.
It looks like you're looking at 140 to 150 miles to get to the north rim. I notice Eugene has bus service to Oakridge so you might be able to shorten that distance by 40 miles.
Hwy 58 has a substantial shoulder most of it's full length. So does Hwy 97.
There is a tunnel on Hwy 58 near Salt Creek Falls. You'll be riding in the uphill direction in this tunnel. There is no shoulder in the tunnel, but there are hazard lights to warn cars when bikes are in the tunnel. There's a button you push on the shoulder of the road just before you enter the tunnel.
Hwy 58 has a fairly substantial climb, but it'll be less than your other options.
There's a hot springs beside Hwy 58 about 10 miles past Oakridge. Big Mountain Cafe in Chemult has good breakfasts. The Pilot truck stop in Chemult has showers. There's a snow park just before Chemult with a day use warming cabin and outhouses that could make a good campsite. There's also many options for setting up camp off the highway.
It looks like you're looking at 140 to 150 miles to get to the north rim. I notice Eugene has bus service to Oakridge so you might be able to shorten that distance by 40 miles.
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There is also a bus that runs from Eugene to Oakridge on OR 58. Runs on weekdays. Takes three bikes.
https://www.ltd.org/diamondex/schedule.html
https://www.ltd.org/diamondex/schedule.html
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Eugene to Oakridge via river front bike path, Dorris Ranch to Clearwater bike path, Jasper - Lowell road, Pengra road, Hiway 58 is 45.5 miles with 600' gain. Mckenzie Bridge to Oakridge via the Aufderhiede is 62.5 miles and 2250' gain. The Aufderhiede is low traffic and scenic and you'll see old growth including the Constitution Grove (alive when the US constitution was signed).
Hiway 58 is a major truck route with A LOT of traffic.
Hiway 58 is a major truck route with A LOT of traffic.
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Eugene to Oakridge via river front bike path, Dorris Ranch to Clearwater bike path, Jasper - Lowell road, Pengra road, Hiway 58 is 45.5 miles with 600' gain. Mckenzie Bridge to Oakridge via the Aufderhiede is 62.5 miles and 2250' gain. The Aufderhiede is low traffic and scenic and you'll see old growth including the Constitution Grove (alive when the US constitution was signed).
Hiway 58 is a major truck route with A LOT of traffic.
Hiway 58 is a major truck route with A LOT of traffic.
Of course, from what I remember riding 126 from Eugene to McKenzie Bridge, it's also got quite a bit of traffic and the shoulder is lacking in spots.
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I don't know what time of year you are planning the trip derail3 but we got there about a week after the rim road opened for the year in late July. I live in Wisconsin and know mosquitoes first hand and I can tell you I've never seen them as thick and hungry as at Crater Lake so beware of that!
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I don't know what time of year you are planning the trip derail3 but we got there about a week after the rim road opened for the year in late July. I live in Wisconsin and know mosquitoes first hand and I can tell you I've never seen them as thick and hungry as at Crater Lake so beware of that!
My wife and I spend a lot of time at Crater Lake,skiing cycling and photography. We literally have thousands of pictures taken in the park. We often joke about why we are actually taking more pictures. Could be that gigabytes are a lot cheaper that a roll of Fuji Valvia.
One evening in early July we had the cameras set up on tripods, and were waiting for the sun to start setting. Cars would stop when they saw us and come over to take a look at the lake. They would get out of their cars, saunter over to the overlook, last for about 15 seconds in their shorts and t-shirts, and then run back to their cars. They did not realize that we had bug nets over our heads and neck, long sleeved shirts and pants, all with a liberal dose of DEET. We'd even wear gloves so we did not have to spray repellent on our hands. Deet will remove the paint of of most things, and melt plastic watch crystals; we did not want to handle our camera gear with repellent on our hands.
We usually camp in Mazama Campground, near the South Entrance to the Park. Those little blood suckers are just as bad down there.
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Funny, I visited Crater Lake last July and don't remember anything about mosquitoes. Maybe I just got lucky? (I rode the loop one day and camped at Diamond Lake for two nights.)
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Was it windy? I think you got lucky!
I find the mosquitoes at Diamond Lake can be even worse than the mosquitoes at Crater Lake. Diamond Lake is notorious for mosquitoes. The forest service even mentions it on their website I'm getting itchy even thinking about it!
I find the mosquitoes at Diamond Lake can be even worse than the mosquitoes at Crater Lake. Diamond Lake is notorious for mosquitoes. The forest service even mentions it on their website I'm getting itchy even thinking about it!
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was going through this thread and thinking how darn neat it would be to ride there----but then I saw the part about the mosquitoes....I too have grown up with bugs hiking and canoeing, but for some reason I find my tolerance for them when biking is not the same. Getting old and wussy I guess (but probably cuz nearly all my bike tours havent had bad bugs so, but then again, I really do like to be able to take breaks and sit around a campsite without being a Red Cross blood donor).
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Much worse there than riding around the rim road. At lease on the ride we had a few seconds to stop and enjoy the view before they found us.
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What's that stuff you put on the backs of cats' and dogs' necks to repel fleas and ticks? I wonder if it repels mosquitoes, too.
Before anybody suggests the obvious experiment, there are rarely mosquitoes where I live. It will have to be somebody else. Or check the research on the product. Hopefully it was tested on humans before it was approved to be applied to my precious pets.
Before anybody suggests the obvious experiment, there are rarely mosquitoes where I live. It will have to be somebody else. Or check the research on the product. Hopefully it was tested on humans before it was approved to be applied to my precious pets.
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What's that stuff you put on the backs of cats' and dogs' necks to repel fleas and ticks? I wonder if it repels mosquitoes, too.
Before anybody suggests the obvious experiment, there are rarely mosquitoes where I live. It will have to be somebody else. Or check the research on the product. Hopefully it was tested on humans before it was approved to be applied to my precious pets.
Before anybody suggests the obvious experiment, there are rarely mosquitoes where I live. It will have to be somebody else. Or check the research on the product. Hopefully it was tested on humans before it was approved to be applied to my precious pets.
I wouldnt put in on yourself. but hey, as you wish. Just be informed beforehand.
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It looks like we'll be in the Eugene area in September. And if all goes well, we'll do a bit of cycling around there ... maybe around Crater Lake too, but we'll see.
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