New Touring bike (not released yet)
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Damn trek for that ! And damn salsa for adding a suspension fork to the fargo. And specialized for copying ! Damn them all !
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Just a complete copy of the Salsa Fargo, which has been out since 2009 (I have the original first gen). Only Trek did it in Aluminum. I see only 2 water bottle mounts in the triangle and can't see mounts on the bottom of the down tube. No bottle mounts on the front fork either. For the price, I'd go with the Salsa Fargo or the Surly Ogre/Troll. QBP has been perfecting this genre of bikes for 6 years, the Trek just is a me-too
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You might get better luck welding a steel frame in a foreign country but aluminium is lighter. I like the idea of the sloping top tube in case you slip in the mud, the bar-end shifters and the large tires to go everywhere. This looks like a real cool product even if I prefer simple V-brakes.
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I can't understand why steel is so popular among bicycle tourists! It's too heavy, too flexible, prone to rust, etc. The knock against aluminum has always been the harsh ride when the pavement is anything less than perfect. That old myth is probably true... if you're riding on narrow, high pressure racing tires. With higher-volume, lower-pressure touring tires the ride is blissfully smooth in my experience. Not feeling the frame flex every time you stomp on the pedals is an added bonus and the lighter weight is the icing on the cake. If I ever get rid of my Nashbar double-butted aluminum touring frame, I'll be looking for another aluminum frame to take its place...
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I don't know spoke count, but per my lbs and assuming you get what's actually listed on the spec sheet, the wheels are full on mtb. Really good wheels.
Unfortunately, as much as I love that new 920, I'm dollars ahead sticking with my 8.4 and modifying it to my needs. including big dollar stuff like fork and wheels.
Unfortunately, as much as I love that new 920, I'm dollars ahead sticking with my 8.4 and modifying it to my needs. including big dollar stuff like fork and wheels.
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I just looked over the specs for this one again, and I noticed a couple of things that I hadn't noticed before. It also has TRP HYLEX hydraulic disc brakes, front and rear through-axles, and Bontrager Duster Elite tubeless ready MTB wheels. As far as the front rack goes, it looks like it's been designed with some future Bontrager Interchange products in mind. I wouldn't be too surprised if they came out with a new line of "adventure bags," or something.
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You might get better luck welding a steel frame in a foreign country but aluminium is lighter. I like the idea of the sloping top tube in case you slip in the mud, the bar-end shifters and the large tires to go everywhere. This looks like a real cool product even if I prefer simple V-brakes.
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I broke two Devinci aluminum touring frames somewhere around 2001. They both broke in the same place on the downtube, about 2" from the headtube.
The second one was a warranty replacement of the first and they gave me a third also as a warranty replacement which I sold before ever building it up and bought a chro-mo cyclocross frame.
That being said I think it was an issue with that frame in particular (and likely the abuse I put it through), not aluminum in general. Most of the other bikes I've owned since have been aluminum and I've never had an issue with them.
The second one was a warranty replacement of the first and they gave me a third also as a warranty replacement which I sold before ever building it up and bought a chro-mo cyclocross frame.
That being said I think it was an issue with that frame in particular (and likely the abuse I put it through), not aluminum in general. Most of the other bikes I've owned since have been aluminum and I've never had an issue with them.
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The CGI concept rendering is different from the final product. The actual bike has 2x10 gearing with SRAM bar-end shifters, crankset, and derailleurs. The gearing is 42/28 front and 11-36 rear.
I just looked over the specs for this one again, and I noticed a couple of things that I hadn't noticed before. It also has TRP HYLEX hydraulic disc brakes, front and rear through-axles, and Bontrager Duster Elite tubeless ready MTB wheels. As far as the front rack goes, it looks like it's been designed with some future Bontrager Interchange products in mind. I wouldn't be too surprised if they came out with a new line of "adventure bags," or something.
I just looked over the specs for this one again, and I noticed a couple of things that I hadn't noticed before. It also has TRP HYLEX hydraulic disc brakes, front and rear through-axles, and Bontrager Duster Elite tubeless ready MTB wheels. As far as the front rack goes, it looks like it's been designed with some future Bontrager Interchange products in mind. I wouldn't be too surprised if they came out with a new line of "adventure bags," or something.
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Here's my question: how long would an aluminum frame last if you're going on 1000 mile tours with approximately 60 lbs of gear attached to the bike. I'm a touring novice, but I'd really like to buy a bike I can do it all on: grocery shop, tour long and short, and race a bit of cyclocross (just for fun). I'm just not convinced an aluminum bike could withstand the heavy touring over time as well as a steel or ti frame. Is that accurate? Is it worth just going steel? I was leaning towards the Salsa Vaya. I did see these new Trek models coming out, and as a bike shop mechanic, I could get a sweet deal on one of these new Treks, and it's tempting.
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An alloy frameset will last forever. Heck, people still fly old airplanes and the aluminum is less advanced than what goes into making bikes.
As long its not abused, you can expect an alloy bike to last as long as your old steel bicycle.
As long its not abused, you can expect an alloy bike to last as long as your old steel bicycle.
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I disagree and I do like that the rack outer rod drops straight down rather than bend/slant toward the axle. Too many of my racks, both front and rear racks, slant toward the axle and the result of this is panniers that flex in toward spokes on rough roads or trails. A rack with this design could prevent panniers from bending in toward spokes.
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