minimalist touring.. what would you carry?
bare essentials
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Money.. large credit line and/or checking account balance for the Debit card.
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Just enough. Camping, cooking, hotel, distance, location, season? Some more details might be helpful.
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How about following in the footsteps of John Muir when it comes to camping light, John Muir's Menu by J. Parker Huber - Life - John Muir Exhibit - Sierra Club
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Just a cell phone to keep in touch with my SAG vehicle.
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Bare minimum for summer, credit card touring staying in hotels, floors or couches would be carried in Carradice Barley saddlebag
Wallet with cards and money iPhone, earphones and charger Multitool Spare tube and patch kit Pump Rain jacket Gloves Shower cap Small cable lock First aid kit 2x 1L water bottles Bic lighter Front and rear lights Emergency mylar blanket Sunblock, toothpaste Sunglasses Spare shirt Tights or other light weight trousers that can be worn on or off the bike. Pen and notebook Then whatever you usually wear: cap or helmet, long sleeve jersey, shorts, socks, shoes If I wanted to go loaded this is my list Lightweight Touring Gear List Redux. | The Wheels of Chance or you could do worse and just take what the Crane brothers took across the Himalayas and Tibet, scroll down to Appendix One on page 181 https://xmasepic.files.wordpress.com...jce-cranes.pdf or just google "randonneur packing list" |
OK assuming camping and cooking... below is a fairly minimal list from a previous trip. This is about 6 pounds of stuff. To be fair I also had a couple pounds of non essentials including a fly rod, an ultralight travel dulcimer, and a pair of Cushe sandals, but those items are are not part the "bare essentials". I have been below 15 pounds of gear and bags the last few trips and even below 10 pounds some of the time. Choices vary trip to trip depending on local, time of year, and other factors.
Shelter-Sleep Ti Goat Ptramigan Bug Bivy Integral Designs Siltarp 1 170# braided dacron (short lines for tarp and a longer piece for hanging food) 6 MSR Needle stakes Mountain Hardwear Phantom +45 mummy bag Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite (size R) pad Exped Air Pillow (size M) Toiletries Tooth brush (Toob) Toothpaste (in handle of Toob) Microfiber car towel (16"x16") Toilet paper (a few sheets per day) Liquid soap (baby shampoo for hair, body, dishes, and clothing) Sunscreen Lip stuff Luggage Flash 18 pack Trashbag liner Fanny pack Possibly a bar roll Straps to lash gear Kitchen Snow Peak 600 with home made lid Ti bowl Light My Fire Ti Spork Pop can stove P51 can opener Pot cozy Knife Sawyer Mini (water filter) First Aid and repair Aspirin/ibuprofen/etc. Benadryl Band aids Gauze Steri-strips Duct tape Spare tubes Patch kit Tools that are always on the bike Clothing Pearl Izumi Attack shorts (1) Gloves Helmet Performance tights Immersion Research kayaking sweater Tech tee Novara Thermal Tech Beanie Stoic Wraith wind shirt Frogg Toggs emergency U/L poncho Wind pants Nike DriFit shorts Sidi Giau shoes UA low-cut poly socks Misc. Android phone and charger |
winter? summer? bear country? cooking and camping? hostels or hotels? go fast? visit every tourist trap along the way?
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Originally Posted by staehpj1
(Post 17297760)
OK assuming camping and cooking... below is a fairly minimal list from a previous trip. This is about 6 pounds of stuff. To be fair I also had a couple pounds of non essentials including a fly rod, an ultralight travel dulcimer, and a pair of Cushe sandals, but those items are are not part the "bare essentials". I have been below 15 pounds of gear and bags the last few trips and even below 10 pounds some of the time. Choices vary trip to trip depending on local, time of year, and other factors.
Shelter-Sleep Ti Goat Ptramigan Bug Bivy Integral Designs Siltarp 1 170# braided dacron (short lines for tarp and a longer piece for hanging food) 6 MSR Needle stakes Mountain Hardwear Phantom +45 mummy bag Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite (size R) pad Exped Air Pillow (size M) Toiletries Tooth brush (Toob) Toothpaste (in handle of Toob) Microfiber car towel (16"x16") Toilet paper (a few sheets per day) Liquid soap (baby shampoo for hair, body, dishes, and clothing) Sunscreen Lip stuff Luggage Flash 18 pack Trashbag liner Fanny pack Possibly a bar roll Straps to lash gear Kitchen Snow Peak 600 with home made lid Ti bowl Light My Fire Ti Spork Pop can stove P51 can opener Pot cozy Knife Sawyer Mini (water filter) First Aid and repair Aspirin/ibuprofen/etc. Benadryl Band aids Gauze Steri-strips Duct tape Spare tubes Patch kit Tools that are always on the bike Clothing Pearl Izumi Attack shorts (1) Gloves Helmet Performance tights Immersion Research kayaking sweater Tech tee Novara Thermal Tech Beanie Stoic Wraith wind shirt Frogg Toggs emergency U/L poncho Wind pants Nike DriFit shorts Sidi Giau shoes UA low-cut poly socks Misc. Android phone and charger |
Originally Posted by nun
(Post 17297856)
Pot cozy? You've got clothes and a towel than can insulate a pot well enough.....double duty:thumb:
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Small sub-dermal laser projector with the number of my Swiss bank safe deposit box .
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Gear Lists- Max, The Cyclist
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Originally Posted by purplenbrown
(Post 17296869)
bare essentials
But check out this thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/touring/84...vangelism.html |
Bare essentials:
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Originally Posted by nun
(Post 17297856)
Pot cozy? You've got clothes and a towel than can insulate a pot well enough.....double duty:thumb:
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Originally Posted by nun
(Post 17297146)
Bare minimum for summer, credit card touring staying in hotels, floors or couches would be carried in Carradice Barley saddlebag
Wallet with cards and money iPhone, earphones and charger Multitool Spare tube and patch kit Pump Rain jacket Gloves Shower cap Small cable lock First aid kit 2x 1L water bottles Bic lighter Front and rear lights Emergency mylar blanket Sunblock, toothpaste Sunglasses Spare shirt Tights or other light weight trousers that can be worn on or off the bike. Pen and notebook Then whatever you usually wear: cap or helmet, long sleeve jersey, shorts, socks, shoes If I wanted to go loaded this is my list Lightweight Touring Gear List Redux. | The Wheels of Chance or you could do worse and just take what the Crane brothers took across the Himalayas and Tibet, scroll down to Appendix One on page 181 https://xmasepic.files.wordpress.com...jce-cranes.pdf or just google "randonneur packing list" 3 sets of cycling jersey and shorts. 2 sets of T shirts and shorts to loaf off bike and sleep in. light rubber thongs when off bike. one small plastic squeeze bottle each for liquid detergent and liquid dish washer for 750cc water bottles. 1 small bottle of chain lubricant. 1 terry cloth to wipe dirty hands and another to wipe sweat off my face. I don't cook period. |
Three sets of cycling clothes?! Here I am, carrying just one and washing it...
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My current kit, for 3 season riding used about a month ago. I added a few more warm layers for an overnight a week ago. This is for on road / off road / dirt road touring. If I was doing a road tour / dirt road tour with resupply / stores / etc. I'd ditch the Sawyer filter and water purification drops, along with folding saw / etc. Basically, the question of what is a minimal kit really comes down to when, where, why, who... and then the kit gets chosen.
New rig, heavier than my Fargo due to the big wheels and tires (and I just added a Rohloff...!) https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3939/...f96a95c6_b.jpgIMG_3809 by mbeganyi, on Flickr I've also added a USBwerk to the mix, and will be wiring up a 3d printed switch box that I designed that will switch from charge / off / lights. The USBwerk and Shimano hub can top off iPhone, a Limefuel battery, or run my GPS or run / charge my GoPro (if I bring it...) https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7553/...1a2b127f_b.jpgDyno Switch Housing v1 (minuteman sent me the wrong switch so I'm hoping they ship out new ones ASAP) by mbeganyi, on Flickr https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3944/...eca2ef85_b.jpgUntitled by mbeganyi, on Flickr Old rig, my Fargo: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5614/...1e45fdee_b.jpgFargo with Revelate Sweetroll, frame bag, Visaha seat bag, jerry can and gas tank. by mbeganyi, on Flickr Something I have done overnights on, but don't ride much anymore: https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2151/...e453bdd6_b.jpgIMG_9474a by mbeganyi, on Flickr (This is bordering on a luxury list for me… I brought a pillow – something that doesn’t go on longer trips as I use the space for food / extra clothes) (no food or water included in weights) Fargo naked with Revo and Redeye lights, dyno wheel, etc. 29# Fargo 35.2# with GPS, hydro hose, Revo, Redeye, Lezyne pump, and on frame bags as noted below: On bike frame bags, feed bag, gas tank and jerry can 6.2# Frame bag Arm warmers, gloves, folding camp saw, knife, Fenix LD22 (for helmet, night riding headlamp), vest and woolie, tent pole, tent stakes, spare tube, empty bladder, sawyer mini inline with hydro bladder Jerry can with tools, multitool with pliers, 1 brake, 1 shift cable (tucked into sides of bag stiffener), der hanger, patch kit, fiber spoke, tire levers, spare master link Feedbag(s) with hand sanitizer (no food for weights, but generally my road food goes here) Gas tank with Canon G12 camera and batteries (4aa and 4aaa) Front harness and rear saddle bag 14# Front bag 8# Sleeping pad, sleeping bag, pillow!, personal stuff, water purification, toiletries, headlamp, showers pass crossover tucked into harness (need to change this – lost it after this photo) Rear bag 6# Tarptent Contrail, cook kit (Snow Peak 700 pot, double wall mug, fuel canister, Gigapower stove, matches, silicone bowl, Ti spork, bear line, carabiner, stuff sack), camp clothes (MUSA knickers, boxers for camp, Patagonia puffy jacket). Total Kit without food / water 20.2# Total rig without food / water 49.2# On person – wallet, cellphone, SPOT tracker, cycling cap Bikepacking List Fall (3Season) Personal: Glasses in case with cloth cleaner Contact Case eye drops Sunglasses Maps / Cue card Knife (in mesh in Feedbag) Electronics: GPS Garmin etrex 20 on bike Camera canon g12 Batteries AAA and AA Headlamp Princeton tec small thing Fenix flashlight for helmet Revo dyno headlight Redeye dyno tailight Meds: First aid kit Tums Ibuprofen TP Shovel Wipes Lantiseptic Tiny travel towel Cook Kit: Stove Snow Peak Ti700 Pot Snow Peak double wall cup (if ‘luxury’ camping…) Ti Spork Snow Peak Gigapower stove with Piezo ignition MSR fuel canister Bear (critter) bag and line with carabiner Food: As req’d Hydration: Water bladder(s) Aqua Mira drops Sawyer mini inline filter Nuun tabs for flavor, electrolytes Shelter: TarpTent Contrail Pole Stakes Sleeping bag big agnes fish hawk 30d down Sleeping pad big agnes insulated air core Bike Mech: Tube Patch kit Tire boot Tire levers Pump Multitool Derailler hanger (if Fargo) Brake pads (1 set) Zip ties Electrical tape Chain Lube Shift cable Brake cable Clothes: Boxers Dry gloves Dry Socks Patagonia puff Rain pants or MUSA knickers Showers Pass jacket Thin ibex woolie On body: Cycling shorts Socks Shoes Pi x alps pro Rapha jersey (got to be fashionable) Thin cap Helmet SPOT Wallet / iphone Cycling gloves (if dirt road / single track) |
Originally Posted by mdilthey
(Post 17299479)
Three sets of cycling clothes?! Here I am, carrying just one and washing it...
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There's not one answer because it depends on where and how you're touring. What are the expected temps and odds of rain? Do you expect multiple consecutive days of rain as you might see in Ireland? Are you touring the developed world or the third world? Is your bike compatible with what bike shops might stock where you're headed, ie. 700c tires for Europe, but 27" for Mexico? How reliable is your bike, and what can you fix on the road? Do you need decent street clothes for some of the planned activities? and so on.
-----I pack by setting an absolute weight limit, and bag size/capacity. Then I gather everything I plan to pack and lay it out on the bed. Then it's a process of elimination/rejection until I'm within the preset limits. To me the size/weight limits are trump, and I'll make any adjustment needed to fit them. (I got used to working this way by flying in small planes with very tight baggage rules, and have gone for a month with only 25#s including scuba diving gear). ----- BTW- most experienced tourists learn to travel light, taking only what's necessary (desired isn't enough), and selecting things that can do double duty. If something unforeseen arises mid trip they can buy what's needed (doesn't work in the third world). |
Originally Posted by wheelinthai
(Post 17299463)
Very comprehensive list. I don't carry those marked in red, since I only tour during dry months. No shower cap since I shampoo every day when I take shower.
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The the amount of stuff you carry will depend on whether you are going to be staying in hotels and eating in restaurants or camping and cooking your own food. You are either doing a very, very long randonnee or more conventional touring.
If it's a very long randonnee you only need to add a couple of things to the gear you'd take for a regular day out on the bike. For me those would be a change of clothes, toiletries and an iPhone charger. To address the "bare essentials" and "minimalist" bits of the OPs questions I assumed a randonee/credit card style that would fit in a small saddlebag like this: https://wheelsofchance.files.wordpre...2014/11/rs.jpg |
Originally Posted by nun
(Post 17299663)
Most cycling rain jackets don't have hoods because they restrict visibility, so the shower cap is to keep your head dry in the rain.
BTW I carry three sets of cycling wears because They're light and take very little space. On some days it's just not practical to do laundry.
Originally Posted by FBinNY
(Post 17299518)
There's not one answer because it depends on where and how you're touring. What are the expected temps and odds of rain? Do you expect multiple consecutive days of rain as you might see in Ireland? Are you touring the developed world or the third world?
BTW- most experienced tourists learn to travel light, taking only what's necessary (desired isn't enough), and selecting things that can do double duty. If something unforeseen arises mid trip they can buy what's needed (doesn't work in the third world). |
Originally Posted by bmike
(Post 17299488)
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