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Yes, I wrap from the stem outward. This eliminates the need for electrical (or whatever) tape to finish off the bar tape. The bar tape is finished off with the plug.
I use higher quality grip tape (Lizard Skins, Fizik Microtex black or grey, Specialized Roubaix, Velox) which lays down very well. I've never had a problem with it rolling up. I think it's the thicker old-school cork type tape that will do that because it's thick and not tapered at the edges. All of the tapes that I've mentioned are tapered except for the Velox tape which is unpadded and lays down pretty thin anyway.
I use higher quality grip tape (Lizard Skins, Fizik Microtex black or grey, Specialized Roubaix, Velox) which lays down very well. I've never had a problem with it rolling up. I think it's the thicker old-school cork type tape that will do that because it's thick and not tapered at the edges. All of the tapes that I've mentioned are tapered except for the Velox tape which is unpadded and lays down pretty thin anyway.
i use cinelli cork wrap, which i think is pretty thin, out of habit. seems like from your explanation it would work for this so i am gonna give it a try.
got 1 last q...do you wrap the tape forwards or backwards over the top when you do it this way?
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thanx for the info...
i use cinelli cork wrap, which i think is pretty thin, out of habit. seems like from your explanation it would work for this so i am gonna give it a try.
got 1 last q...do you wrap the tape forwards or backwards over the top when you do it this way?
i use cinelli cork wrap, which i think is pretty thin, out of habit. seems like from your explanation it would work for this so i am gonna give it a try.
got 1 last q...do you wrap the tape forwards or backwards over the top when you do it this way?
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hey carleton...here is my new inside-out wrapping. i hate wrapping bars, have no patience, so couldn't have done it without your assist. after a couple days of pretty hard riding, i am very pleased with it. wish i had discovered this way to wrap before...
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Dear Carleton,
I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?
I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?
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Dear Carleton,
I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?
I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?
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Dear Carleton,
I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?
I rode at the local velodrome on Sunday, and it was awesome. It should be illegal to have that much fun only going in circles. I do, however, have a question. While riding quickly, not necessarily a sprint, I would start to bounce in the turns. I wasn't out spinning my legs. Is this something that I may get used to or better with track time? Could it be I'm fighting the g force generated in the turns and need to relax more?
So, try lowering your saddle maybe 1cm if it's kinda high. But understand that it's really hard to offer this kind of advice sight-unseen. Maybe you can ask an experienced person at the track, "Do my legs look like they are extending too far or not enough?"
If it's not saddle height, then you'll just need time spinning at those cadences. It was probably at 110 to 120RPM. I used to hop at 120RPM, then it would smooth out after that. Also, there are like 5 different pedal strokes for different RPM ranges. But, developing these takes lots of time.
So, a track-specific bike fit would help out a lot. This costs money, but it really helps a lot. I was at my bike fitter today for like the 5th or 6th time this year. But, I'm tweaking millimeters at this point. By "track specific" I mean being fit by someone that is familiar with the sport of track racing. 95% of track racing happens at high RPMs while in the saddle. So, efficient (saving energy) and effective (making speed) spinning is very, very important.
Rollers help tremendously because you are in an isolated environment with little resistance spinning at higher than normal cadences. This is like a magnifying glass on your pedal stroke. Smooth it out on the rollers and you'll be ultra-smooth on the track.
Congrats! You are a "trackie" now.
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It could be as simple as your saddle height being too high (or too low) or it may be that your muscles aren't used to firing at that cadence so you are getting some "feedback" with the butt hop. This is common.
So, try lowering your saddle maybe 1cm if it's kinda high. But understand that it's really hard to offer this kind of advice sight-unseen. Maybe you can ask an experienced person at the track, "Do my legs look like they are extending too far or not enough?"
If it's not saddle height, then you'll just need time spinning at those cadences. It was probably at 110 to 120RPM. I used to hop at 120RPM, then it would smooth out after that. Also, there are like 5 different pedal strokes for different RPM ranges. But, developing these takes lots of time.
So, a track-specific bike fit would help out a lot. This costs money, but it really helps a lot. I was at my bike fitter today for like the 5th or 6th time this year. But, I'm tweaking millimeters at this point. By "track specific" I mean being fit by someone that is familiar with the sport of track racing. 95% of track racing happens at high RPMs while in the saddle. So, efficient (saving energy) and effective (making speed) spinning is very, very important.
Rollers help tremendously because you are in an isolated environment with little resistance spinning at higher than normal cadences. This is like a magnifying glass on your pedal stroke. Smooth it out on the rollers and you'll be ultra-smooth on the track.
Congrats! You are a "trackie" now.
So, try lowering your saddle maybe 1cm if it's kinda high. But understand that it's really hard to offer this kind of advice sight-unseen. Maybe you can ask an experienced person at the track, "Do my legs look like they are extending too far or not enough?"
If it's not saddle height, then you'll just need time spinning at those cadences. It was probably at 110 to 120RPM. I used to hop at 120RPM, then it would smooth out after that. Also, there are like 5 different pedal strokes for different RPM ranges. But, developing these takes lots of time.
So, a track-specific bike fit would help out a lot. This costs money, but it really helps a lot. I was at my bike fitter today for like the 5th or 6th time this year. But, I'm tweaking millimeters at this point. By "track specific" I mean being fit by someone that is familiar with the sport of track racing. 95% of track racing happens at high RPMs while in the saddle. So, efficient (saving energy) and effective (making speed) spinning is very, very important.
Rollers help tremendously because you are in an isolated environment with little resistance spinning at higher than normal cadences. This is like a magnifying glass on your pedal stroke. Smooth it out on the rollers and you'll be ultra-smooth on the track.
Congrats! You are a "trackie" now.
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Dear Carleton,
Is wheel weight less of an issue with track racing, if there is an aero benefit?
Is wheel weight less of an issue with track racing, if there is an aero benefit?
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That being said, I wouldn't spend money to race some B43s. Those things are too heavy. I think deep Vs or similarly deep rims are the deepest alloy rims I've seen around. Deeper than that, they are carbon like the Zipp 404 and deeper.
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It depends. If you are doing mass start races where speed changes a lot, then a heavy wheel will wear on you. If you are doing a time trial where you get up to speed and hang on, it's less of an issue, but it's still an issue.
That being said, I wouldn't spend money to race some B43s. Those things are too heavy. I think deep Vs or similarly deep rims are the deepest alloy rims I've seen around. Deeper than that, they are carbon like the Zipp 404 and deeper.
That being said, I wouldn't spend money to race some B43s. Those things are too heavy. I think deep Vs or similarly deep rims are the deepest alloy rims I've seen around. Deeper than that, they are carbon like the Zipp 404 and deeper.
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1700g is light for a fixie wheel,1400 grams is ridiculously light for track wheels.But I love it,You can build 1300g track wheels for around 350 dollars(if you build them yourself)closer to 4215 if you have them built.
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Dear Carleton,
What do you think of the red bull mini drome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kghtRevkUJA
What do you think of the red bull mini drome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kghtRevkUJA
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Dear Carleton,
What do you think of the red bull mini drome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kghtRevkUJA
What do you think of the red bull mini drome?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kghtRevkUJA
How absurd would it be if someone built a 14 meter running track and had races on it? How about 4ft long basketball court with hoops 2ft off the ground? It would be hard to take any of it seriously. And it didn't even look fun. A skatepark is more fun if you want weird obstacles and transitions.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should