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Old 04-27-05, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MERTON
so how much water should i drink? how do i know when i've had too little?
Ask your doctor.
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Originally Posted by Mikabike
Sorry, I thought you might like to do some research of your own.
I have, over the course of 6 years, have yet to find a study that states anywhere close to your dramatic terms dangers associated with creatine. The negatives are usually associated with the 'fringe' element, kinda like your wrestler example. I started my post by saying to look for other threads on this topic as I and others have posted our personal examples etc in them.

I'm curious why you come across so confrontational? I pointed out that I 'hadn’t found' a negative study. Obviously I had looked. I also stated I was open to reading one if someone had one. I agree with you that taking too much of anything can be harmful, I have posted that 'loading' isn’t necessary and that 5g a day is all you need. I have also posted that Creatine isn’t something you take perpetually, it needs to be cycled.

I truly am interested in reading a documented study showing ill effects or personal examples directly related to creatine supplementation which is why I posted and read this thread to begin with.
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Originally Posted by MERTON
how should i cycle it? the directions on the ethyl ester type says to just take 2.5 grams a day and maybe 2.5 after workin out if ya want a little extra boost.
extra boost, heheh. Not like you are taking methamphetamines and need a bump.

Dont take it more then 3 months at a stretch, take at least one month off. I use it during the winter where I concentrate more on lifting then I do riding. I'm currently using up the last of a tub I have then probably wont use again until Oct.
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Dosing article

Creatine cycles

To paraphrase these and other articles, you want to have a period of not taking any to reduce any posible negative effects. Just a safety precaution. There arent any 20+ year studies yet so better safe then sorry.
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Originally Posted by Mikabike

There was a case where some wrestlers tried to drop weight through dehydration and also took large amounts of creatine (why, I will never understand) and died. But those guys are nuts anyways.

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Sorry, but that's a total urban legend. However, you are right in that saying nothing out there - not aspirin, not vitamins, not even WATER fer chrissakes, is 100% safe. As with any new supplement, start slow and stop at the first sign of problems.

Most everything is safe when taken at recommended levels. Taking twice the recommended amount and inadequate hydration was what got ephedra pulled off the market.
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Originally Posted by teamawe
I have, over the course of 6 years, have yet to find a study that states anywhere close to your dramatic terms dangers associated with creatine. The negatives are usually associated with the 'fringe' element, kinda like your wrestler example. I started my post by saying to look for other threads on this topic as I and others have posted our personal examples etc in them.

I'm curious why you come across so confrontational? I pointed out that I 'hadn’t found' a negative study. Obviously I had looked. I also stated I was open to reading one if someone had one. I agree with you that taking too much of anything can be harmful, I have posted that 'loading' isn’t necessary and that 5g a day is all you need. I have also posted that Creatine isn’t something you take perpetually, it needs to be cycled.

I truly am interested in reading a documented study showing ill effects or personal examples directly related to creatine supplementation which is why I posted and read this thread to begin with.
I guess my response was stronger than I meant it to sound. I didn't want to start an argument, and I know people bash creatine alot so your probably sick of em arguing.
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Originally Posted by MERTON
how should i cycle it? the directions on the ethyl ester type says to just take 2.5 grams a day and maybe 2.5 after workin out if ya want a little extra boost.
I take 4g of creatine a day, post workout for 4 weeks. Then 4 weeks off.
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Merton you crack me up
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