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08-19-05, 02:56 PM
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"My legs felt fine, never started burning or anything, it was not being able to catch me breath."
Sounds like you can shift up into a bigger gear to work the legs more and save the lungs a little. Also slowing down a bit helps, then you can finish the hill. Just do that hill over and over again, make it a regular part of your training. Do hill intervals, pick a steady pace that gradually increases your HR until it hits its max. Pick a pace that'll have you hit the max right at the top, which will probably be a pace that gives you the best time up the hill. With practice, you'll be able to get good at pacing your self on a hill and can determine the most optimum pace on any hill once you've got a look at it. In general, better to start off slow and have something left at the top, rather than blowing up too soon.
Sounds like you can shift up into a bigger gear to work the legs more and save the lungs a little. Also slowing down a bit helps, then you can finish the hill. Just do that hill over and over again, make it a regular part of your training. Do hill intervals, pick a steady pace that gradually increases your HR until it hits its max. Pick a pace that'll have you hit the max right at the top, which will probably be a pace that gives you the best time up the hill. With practice, you'll be able to get good at pacing your self on a hill and can determine the most optimum pace on any hill once you've got a look at it. In general, better to start off slow and have something left at the top, rather than blowing up too soon.
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Originally Posted by Longhorn
Anyway, he was telling me one day about doing a double exhale. If I remember correctly, he said that it's all in the efficient exchange of gases in your lungs and if you exhale twice before you inhale, you somehow increase the amount of oxygen you take in.
My Swimming Coach always told us, breathing out is much more important than breathing in. You have to clear all the CO2 out. The actual amount of oxegen you need is a lot smaller than you think. So concentrate on breathing out - forcing the breath out. And don't take too big a breath in. You probably think I am mad saying that; so try it.
Then again, I am not sure that this will help out our friend (who seems to need to grab a bigger gear), but it will pump loads of good clean oxegen through to your muscles....
04-05-06, 08:14 AM
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Overthere,
Hills are a whole 'nother thing aren't they?
There is a sort of a trick about climbing. You need to be able to go at a pace that you can sustain. For example, at say 6 miles an hour you might be at just under your anaerobic threshold and you can climb a pretty long time at that level of activity and probably for longer than most hills will last unless you are dealing with a really long climb. However, one can not sustain anaerobic metabolism for any length of time and if you go much over the threshold the duration you can sustain is probably measured in the tens of seconds.
So often, hill climbing is a matter of successful pacing. Of course, routinely climbing hills has always seemed to improve my conditioning and my ability to climb hills so that is not to be scorned.
Good luck
Pat
Hills are a whole 'nother thing aren't they?
There is a sort of a trick about climbing. You need to be able to go at a pace that you can sustain. For example, at say 6 miles an hour you might be at just under your anaerobic threshold and you can climb a pretty long time at that level of activity and probably for longer than most hills will last unless you are dealing with a really long climb. However, one can not sustain anaerobic metabolism for any length of time and if you go much over the threshold the duration you can sustain is probably measured in the tens of seconds.
So often, hill climbing is a matter of successful pacing. Of course, routinely climbing hills has always seemed to improve my conditioning and my ability to climb hills so that is not to be scorned.
Good luck
Pat
04-05-06, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by biket
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04-08-06, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tippy
Following this little ditto might have worked. Just remember, shift up early, not after you have come to a crawl in low gear. You're gonna need to push harder (to maintain your speed); borrow from your anaerobic process but don't use it all up on one hill (unless that's the only up hill you have for the ride). Be prepared for the higher gear or you will tip over. If your having troubles maintaining walking speed then either you gotta start the hill faster or get off and push. The way you describe your condition, you probably have a little elbow room in your anaerobic process with your legs working just fine. Might as well use it. A word of warning about the anaerobic process, it's a pay me later process. You do the work with little increase in oxygen need UNTIL the work is done and then it's pay back time ... your gonna suck oxygen eventially.
Make sure you're breathing OK (not gasping) when it's time to pay the piper.
I remember this by imagining sprinters at track events. They explode off the line and are pretty much using the anaerobic process for the enter race. Notice how they breath. Very short and choppy DURING the race. Their power output is not entirely dependant on lots of oxygen intake. After crossing the finish line and coming to a stop, what happens? They double over, breathing deeply (almost gasping). That's their pay back time.
Sounds like your climbing a cliff not a hill (said the rider from Florida
)
d.tipton
Make sure you're breathing OK (not gasping) when it's time to pay the piper.
I remember this by imagining sprinters at track events. They explode off the line and are pretty much using the anaerobic process for the enter race. Notice how they breath. Very short and choppy DURING the race. Their power output is not entirely dependant on lots of oxygen intake. After crossing the finish line and coming to a stop, what happens? They double over, breathing deeply (almost gasping). That's their pay back time.
Sounds like your climbing a cliff not a hill (said the rider from Florida
)d.tipton
04-08-06, 06:38 PM
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quick question...What is an average speed uphill on a moderate hill being moderately fit. All I can ride is hills I live in a river valley and everywhere except down stream is uphill.
04-09-06, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jarery
50 Mph uphill is average if you check the road forum
