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Old 01-04-06 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoTyred
i guess what i'm wondering, is that in some rehab places--
most...all?? Recovering persons aren't allowed booze and
illicit drugs etc.. So why was that guy--who
couldn't bend his own legs or even roll over, given the latitude
to decide his own menu?
Excuse my oversimplifications, but, strap him down and
come back in a year.
i guess we should be thankful that we aren't in such
conumdrums(sp?) ourselves.
FWIW, if i become 750#'s and go to get
treatment, i'd want treatment, not snacks
and hamburgs. Giving him a steady diet
of crystal meth would make more sense to
me....
Drugs are not required for life; food is. How long would you live off a diet of lard and water? Not very long. Although water plus some multivitamins may make a starvation diet like you propose a bit more realisitc. Sad thing is that guy would still lose plenty of weight eatting 3 fast food meals per day. It's not the hamburger and fries that is making that guy so fat.. it's the 2nd, 3rd and 4th orders...
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Old 01-04-06 | 01:19 PM
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So you are saying that I can increase my caloric requirement by keeping my apartment colder this winter and thus burn fat when not excersizing because I'm shivering and trying to keep myself warm?!

+1 for being warm-blooded to help lower heating bills!
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Old 01-04-06 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by manual_overide
So you are saying that I can increase my caloric requirement by keeping my apartment colder this winter and thus burn fat when not excersizing because I'm shivering and trying to keep myself warm?!

+1 for being warm-blooded to help lower heating bills!

You bet! The only catch is you need to be cold enough to shiver.
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Old 01-04-06 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kuan
Hell Elwood Blues could eat four whole fried chickens and a coke and still somersault down the church aisles.

I'm not doing too well on my weight loss. Mine's an addiction. This year I wanna ski faster and all the trails around here are anaerobic for me. Makes me real hungry afterwards.
Dude! Come on! That was Jake not Elwood! (duh) Elwood got the white toast - no butter.
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Old 01-04-06 | 06:42 PM
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Dude! Come on! That was Jake not Elwood! (duh) Elwood got the white toast - no butter.
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Old 01-06-06 | 01:45 PM
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You bet! The only catch is you need to be cold enough to shiver.
Not really. The colder your surroundings are, the more energy your body has to use just to keep itself warm. The greater the difference between the surrounding temp and your normal 98.6, the faster you are losing heat and, therefore, the harder your body has to work to keep up with the loss.
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Old 01-06-06 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
Yeah, the majority of calories consumed is to keep yourself warm and to a lesser extent, move around. Obviously if you sit all day doing nothing, your calorie requirements will go down.

Not so obvious is that the higher your body-fat percentage goes up, the less energy you need to keep yourself warm because fat is a much, much better insulator than muscle.

Then the body size reduces calorie requirements as well. The bigger and rounder you are, the less heat you shed relative to your volume because volume to surface-area ratio goes up. You only shed heat through your skin's surface-area and if your volume under that skin increases by 8x, but surface area only increases by 4x, you're much, much better at retaining heat. So... overall, that guy probably only needs 1000-1250 calories/day to maintain his body-weight, but he was eating a significant amount more than that!

I've read that you burn fewer calories watching tv. than you do while sleeping. Your brain is working harder during sleep than watching tv.
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Old 01-06-06 | 02:12 PM
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Cooler temperatures will increases the amount of heat lost (if you are not clothed well) but has a very minimal effect on caloric burn rate; as most of the heat would have been produced anyways. Your body just reduces sweat production; and thus the amount of thermal losses due to evaporation.

However, shivering increases the rate calories are burned to 500 - 600% above normal.
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Old 01-06-06 | 04:04 PM
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Cooler temperatures will increases the amount of heat lost (if you are not clothed well) but has a very minimal effect on caloric burn rate; as most of the heat would have been produced anyways.
I wonder if it has been studied. My desk is in the uninsulated section of the basement and I'm sure I pace, tap my feet, or get up and walk around more when I'm working at home and it's cold down there than when it's warm.
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Old 01-06-06 | 04:31 PM
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I wonder if it has been studied. My desk is in the uninsulated section of the basement and I'm sure I pace, tap my feet, or get up and walk around more when I'm working at home and it's cold down there than when it's warm.
Introducing activities (tapping foot, walking etc) would destroy the experiment. Nobody would disagree that activity warms you, or that activities burn calories. You would have to compare 2 situations doing exactly the same thing (eg same speed on stationary bike, both watching tv, etc) with only the temp being adjusted.

Being cold may make you want to do something to warmup; but that is not the issue at hand. Just like taking stimulants may make you more inclined to workout, but it's still the workout that burns the Cals.

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