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Old 06-01-07 | 04:54 AM
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Virtual Reality trainers

I am a newbie here, but I made some research and did not find much info about this topic. Generally I train on the road, but sometimes it is not possible to go out riding because of luck of time or because it is raining. I own Elite Mag Alu trainer, but it is very simple, does not provide enough resistance, and does not have the possibility to train different terrains. I figured that good VR trainer would allow me to train on a simulated terrains that I do not have in my area (it is virtually flat) and have more enjoyment. The other issue is the noise. I live and train in an apartment and low noise is critical. Even though I have special Continental tire for the trainer, Elite Mag Alu has a magnetic breaks and the construction is such that resistance is not smooth thus providing a significant noise, especially on high speeds.

On the internet I found two companies that offer affordable VR trainers:

1) Tacx VR trainers - iMagic and Fortius.

2) Travel Trac.

I did not find much information about the first trainers except what is written on their web. But from other sources it looks like they have issues with the software, which is a bit unstable to say the least. One question that I would like to clarify is why they have two versions (iMagic and Fortius)? Why is the price so different? Fortius looks more advanced, but from their booklets I do not see if this cost the extra money.

The second trainer seems to be a bit better, the reviews are more positive and the price is lower. But it is not represented in European stores. Also I could not find the manufacturer's web site.

Anyone has an opinion about this?
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Old 06-01-07 | 05:06 AM
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Ah! I found that Travel Tac is actually Elite product.
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Old 06-05-07 | 11:00 PM
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I did the same research lloking at the TACX VR trainers. I felt the same way you do: very cool looking stuff, very iffy stability and no support. I ended up buying a Computrainer from www.racermateinc. Same idea, handles grades and all that stuff and responsive support, which you will need from any of these products. You can pm me with any questions because I just got it last week.
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Old 06-09-07 | 10:01 AM
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Thanks, Chris! Though this is a bit more expensive then I had expected, but maybe it costs the extra money. You wrote you made some research, so could you tell me if it only supports virtual 3D video or, maybe it also supports real video from the course? Also I found an interesting feature - "Pedal Stroke Analyzer". Do you think it is only available on this trainer and not in Real Axiom or Tacx? What software came with your pack?


BTW, there is a mistake in the URL - it should be www.racermateinc.com .
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Old 06-09-07 | 03:25 PM
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Using the TACX Fortius for about a year now. It totally kicks ass, literally. The VR modes are fair, at best. Where the Fortius shines is with the videos and catalyst courses.

The real life videos are great and they have some new RL videos where you can try to keep up with a pro team on some training rides. I have stages from the TDF and the Amstel Gold Race. I am planning on picking up a few more when the weather here turns colder (thankfully months away).

You can also use it in Catalyst mode which permits you to preprogram intervals or duplicate real course profiles. In fact, there are about 2 dozen real climbs (Mt. Washington, various TDF climbs, etc.) available free online.

Oh, the resistance unit is very realistic (well for indoor riding). Going uphill, it can simulate grades up to about 20%. But, if properly callibrated, the wheel may slip a bit as things get steep. Overall, its a great trainer.

A few nits though:

1) downhill the trainer may not register any wattage (this is apparently a voltage issue in the US with the resistance unit).

2) the Software is a little buggy.

Hope this helps.
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Old 06-10-07 | 07:17 AM
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Also to note Tacx has a great forum for user to user, user to manufacturer support. At the time I looked into purchasing I could not find similar support for other products.
Yes software can be tricky but once ste up, no problem. You also have to make sure your hardware is up to snuff.
I bought for the virtual aspect but now use mainly the Real Life Videos.
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