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Benefits of weight training to cycling
I do weights sometimes. But i like the research answers from all of you on this forum.
For doing weights more less like leg weights such as Lunges, Leg Presses, Curls, etc etc....... do they have benefits to improving cycling performance. as I like doing long distance. would legs exercises in the gym make me be able to ride faster and stronger? What would be a good leg workout, plan to follow? that would be more benefit to my cycling? As well i would l like to know. What are the benefits and what have you all seen in your own improvement in your riding when you also had a gym workout? thanks |
Weight training can help older riders like me maintain muscle. It helps my core strength which helps my position on the bike, especially when tucked in on descents (important in some races). I think it helps my strength on the bike for short bursts of power, but I have not measured it and I'm not sure, so whatever effect it has is small. But I am an ectomorph, with less than 1 lb per inch of height. Normal people aren't strength limited in an endurance sport like road cycling.
I don't detect any change in my endurance other than improved core and upper body strength means fewer aches and pains as the miles accumulate. So while it's part of maintaining a healthy body its not going to make you faster on the bike. |
Originally Posted by ericm979
(Post 13420717)
But I am an ectomorph, with less than 1 lb per inch of height. Normal people aren't strength limited in an endurance sport like road cycling.
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I started a weight workout in August and I feel it has improved my cycling. My legs feel stronger on hills and my shoulders and neck don't get tired and sore after 3 hours on the bike.
For legs I do leg press, leg extension, and leg curl. Upper body: lat pulldown, chest press, bicep curls, tricep pulldowns, and shoulders on the crossover machine. |
Originally Posted by CbadRider
(Post 13422085)
I started a weight workout in August and I feel it has improved my cycling. My legs feel stronger on hills and my shoulders and neck don't get tired and sore after 3 hours on the bike.
For legs I do leg press, leg extension, and leg curl. Upper body: lat pulldown, chest press, bicep curls, tricep pulldowns, and shoulders on the crossover machine. |
Originally Posted by gregf83
(Post 13421109)
So you weigh 70 lbs?
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Originally Posted by CbadRider
(Post 13422085)
For legs I do leg press, leg extension, and leg curl.
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Originally Posted by ericm979
(Post 13425035)
2 lbs/in.
I hate mysteries. How tall are you? |
If weight training helps your cycling - it mostly means you are a rotten cyclist.
If cycling helps weight lifting -same thing......... |
Broad sweeping generalizations ftw.
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Originally Posted by chinarider
(Post 13432248)
I think you'd be better off doing squats and dead lifts. They more closely mimic natural movements, involve a fuller range of motion, strengthen smaller ancillary stabilizer muscles and help strengthen the core. They may have a bad rep for causing injury, but with proper form (IMPORTANT), this is undeserved. They actually help avoid injury due to the benefits listed above.
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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium
(Post 13515920)
If weight training helps your cycling - it mostly means you are a rotten cyclist.
If cycling helps weight lifting -same thing......... So I'll go with him and say it's pretty beneficial. |
It can also help prevent musculature imbalances. Also, Chris Carmichael recommends it as well and a few coaches around here that I have chatted with.
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I spent 3 yrs in the gym...loosing 70 lbs and getting strong. I wasn't 'bulky' but knew where my 'pebbles' were (bicep muscles). Not bad for a 50 yr old female. Then I started w/ a proper cycling coach to prepare for a big event 3 yrs down the road. The first thing he said... "it's time to strip some of that muscle off you" That muscle translates to weight and that means slow riding. Off season he had me do power work (on and off the bike- all lower body) and core work. Now I'm pebble-less but I've got kickin' leg muscles... :)
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I don't understand why off-the-bike weight training is necessary for cyclists. If a cyclist wants to do a strength training session that targets the exact muscles they use for cycling, can't they just pedal in a higher-than-usual gear?
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Originally Posted by poxpower
(Post 13516557)
Well according to Joe Friel (the cyclist's training bible), weight training is essential to performing at top levels. He dedicates a large portion of his book to strength training during the off-season.
So I'll go with him and say it's pretty beneficial. |
I find it debatable to declare that pro cyclists do not strength train.
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Originally Posted by Hookflash
(Post 13524303)
I don't understand why off-the-bike weight training is necessary for cyclists. If a cyclist wants to do a strength training session that targets the exact muscles they use for cycling, can't they just pedal in a higher-than-usual gear?
Overall, a fit and trim physique aided by (not too much) weight and strength training can assist with the body's endurance on the bike. |
Hamstrings as well.
Massive quads and puny hamstrings are an interesting combo. |
If weight training helps your cycling - it mostly means you are a rotten cyclist. If cycling helps weight lifting -same thing......... However, with semantics and but without context these threads more often confuse than enlighten. As one post points out - very knowledgeable people know how to use weight training to improve human performance. However, without context - and without prioritization of a given athlete's status and stated goals much gibberish can be thought of as "correct." In the end - as usual - my pithy comment is probably best. Alternative training does not improve "cycling" until an athlete exhausts all the avenues of training adaptations afforded through quite a bit of bicycle riding. I doubt this to be that case of the OP - but I digress. My narrow perspective is worthless to most people. |
Originally Posted by Hookflash
(Post 13524303)
I don't understand why off-the-bike weight training is necessary for cyclists. If a cyclist wants to do a strength training session that targets the exact muscles they use for cycling, can't they just pedal in a higher-than-usual gear?
I saw a video of Lance Armstrong's workout where he spent some time stepping with weights. I know, none of us are Lance, but if we don't do a lot of walking, some running or weight training we'll eventually wind up with lower density bones and diminished strength in general. |
if you belong to a gym, try the bodypump and CX30/CXworks classes. bodypump will get you the squats and lunges you need (plus some upperbody and core), and cx30 is great for core. i still think cycling is the best exercise for cycling, but if you want some variety or if you want to do something after work when it's dark outside, these can be great.
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Originally Posted by chinarider
(Post 13432248)
I think you'd be better off doing squats and dead lifts. They more closely mimic natural movements, involve a fuller range of motion, strengthen smaller ancillary stabilizer muscles and help strengthen the core. They may have a bad rep for causing injury, but with proper form (IMPORTANT), this is undeserved. They actually help avoid injury due to the benefits listed above.
Outside of its potential benefit for cycling, strength training (free weights, bodyweight exercises, and/or machines) can confer other benefits: reduced risk of heart disease, better blood sugar management, metabolic elevation, etc. Plus, you'll probably look better in skin-tight cycling clothes :) |
I started using kettlebells and I became faster and stronger bike rider. Kettlebells is not only about strength training, but mostly cardio and endurance. After only a few weeks of kettlebells I started climbing in a bigger ring and my cruising speed increased. Also I felt much fresher after the last 200k brevet than before I was using kettlebells.
A set of kettlebells exercises is like doing intervals in the off season. I do see more benefits for cycling from a 45 min set of kettlebell exercises than from an hour of indoor trainer. |
I don't think of training as something seperate.
If I work out I feel better, and I feel best when I've used a lot of muscle mass. That doesn't happen with cycling. Don't get me wrong, a bike has always been a part of my life. The first time I bike toured I didn't know the word existed. I just loaded my bike with camping gear so i could get to a weekend long rock show in the next state. But after I got out of college, I had a job on the road and started going to gyms to get some exercise. Kettlebells are great, I got some a couple years ago and keep meaning to use them. I guess what I am saying is the First Rule of Exercise. 1) The best exercise is the one you'll actually do. have some fun. |
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