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Old 05-05-13, 07:31 AM
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How would my performance increase if I took EPO

I am not planning on doing it and I am all about being natural.

But how much faster would I become if I took EPO?

I am doing about 16.5mph for a 50 mile ride over 1200ft of climbing total

Would I be able to easily sustain 25mph over 50mi?
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Originally Posted by hambertloot
Would I be able to easily sustain 25mph over 50mi?
no.
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The numbers I've seen in peer-reviewed medical journals indicated roughly a 10% increase in VO2max. Not sure how representative this is of what a real-world doping regimen can achieve. I think there's a tradeoff: if you increase the dosage, you get better results, but you increase density and viscosity of your blood and that increases the risk of having a heart attack or a stroke (even in young healthy people).

This would translate into a 3.5% to 10% increase in speed at the same effort, depending on the incline (3.5% on the flat, 10% uphill). If you're averaging 16.5 mph now, you might be averaging 17 to 18 doped.

There's really not much point unless you're a competitive athlete who has exhausted all other approaches.

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I've taken some corticosteroids that helped me feel stronger on my regular rides.
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25mph would take about 3X the power as 16.5mph, according to this calculator:

https://bikecalculator.com/veloUS.html

Sure, EPO could do that for you.
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Originally Posted by hambertloot

Would I be able to easily sustain 25mph over 50mi?
Too hilarious, really. You're either a troll, or an idiot.
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Too hilarious, really. You're either a troll, or an idiot.
From a previous post: he's a 16 yo.
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Originally Posted by hambertloot
I am doing about 16.5mph for a 50 mile ride over 1200ft of climbing total..
Basically, that's pretty puny performance. Some decent training will boost your performance way more than EPO would without the training.
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Originally Posted by Looigi
Basically, that's pretty puny performance. Some decent training will boost your performance way more than EPO would without the training.
well please give me training tips dude. i wanna get fast
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somebody told me average pace is 15-16mph
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Originally Posted by hambertloot
somebody told me average pace is 15-16mph
Average is a meaningless concept unless you know what you're averaging.

If you're talking about grannies bimbling home from bingo with their dog in a basket on the handlebars then 15mph is stormingly fast. If you're talking about Mark Cavendish and Andre Greipel in the last 500m of a flat Tour de France stage then 15mph is unfeasibly slow.

In the middle are a huge range of cyclists of such widely varying abilities that talk of an average speed without narrowing down the population a little is rather like asking how long a piece of string is.
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Originally Posted by contango
Average is a meaningless concept unless you know what you're averaging.

If you're talking about grannies bimbling home from bingo with their dog in a basket on the handlebars then 15mph is stormingly fast. If you're talking about Mark Cavendish and Andre Greipel in the last 500m of a flat Tour de France stage then 15mph is unfeasibly slow.

In the middle are a huge range of cyclists of such widely varying abilities that talk of an average speed without narrowing down the population a little is rather like asking how long a piece of string is.
Alright well what are ways to get faster? I dont wanna be puny all my life
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How much do you currently ride per week, hours and miles ?
Do you mostly go out by yourself or do you also join group rides with people that are faster than you and get you out of your comfort zone?
How do your training rides look like, do you mostly go at a constant high effort that you can maintain for the duration of the ride or do you mix it up going all out up hills and recover going down?
Do you do intervals?
Do you know about this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ut-recipe-book
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Originally Posted by hambertloot
well please give me training tips dude. i wanna get fast
Training tip 1: Read and apply "The Cyclist's Training Bible" by Joe Friel.
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Very simply, ride more miles/week. Increase weekly mileage by 10%/week until you get to 150 miles or so. Increase the climbing on at least two weekly rides to over 50'/mile. Ride up every hill you see, rather than avoiding them. Those two days, ride the hills really hard. The rest of the days, go moderate on moderate terrain. You want one of those hilly rides to be 4 hours or more. You do this all summer, you'll notice a difference.

Over the winter, keep up at least 100 miles/week even if they're trainer or roller miles. If you live where there's snow, learn to ski Nordic. Next summer, you can get fast.
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The good news is that, like it or not, you're using EPO already. Now get out there and ride it like you stole it!
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You are 16 years old?

Just ride your bike. You want to know how fast you are not, go enter some races and you will see where you stand with others your age. Once you get some perspective, get a coach to guide and teach you if you feel the need. Coaching yourself in cycling is hard to do if you have no previous experience with endurance training.
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