Profile Design bottle question
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Profile Design bottle question
Anybody use the Profile Design water bottle? I just ordered one online and found out I need the bracket.
I'm not a rep for the company, but here is the link for the bracket.
https://www.all3sports.com/product_in...d004908b006528
Anybody have any ideas for attaching the bottle without the bracket. I will probably still order the bracket but I need a quickfix so I can use it this week.
I also would like any info on the bottle...good or bad..or any upgrades done to make it better.
I'm not a rep for the company, but here is the link for the bracket.
https://www.all3sports.com/product_in...d004908b006528
Anybody have any ideas for attaching the bottle without the bracket. I will probably still order the bracket but I need a quickfix so I can use it this week.
I also would like any info on the bottle...good or bad..or any upgrades done to make it better.
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Yeah...I tried the rubber bands, but the bottom of the bottle is hitting the top of my tire. The bracket looks like it raises it a bit. I should have mentioned that before. My apologies. I appreciate the reply. I'm assuming you use one, if so, how do you like it?
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If you have STI shifters on regular drop bars with a clip-on aerobar, it may be difficult to mount. I tried to mount it on my wife's bike but couldn't because the shifter cables were in the way.
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i have to be honest i hated this bottle when i first bought it. kept ending up with sports drink all over the bike when riding over anything but smooth terrain + the noise it made was really bad (rattling).
I went home depot, picked up some fat 1.5" thick velcro (the really heavy duty stuff) wrapped the female around the tri bar and stuck a huge great wad of it on either side of the bottle.
once in place it doesn't move an inch or make a sound
great and cheap fix
I went home depot, picked up some fat 1.5" thick velcro (the really heavy duty stuff) wrapped the female around the tri bar and stuck a huge great wad of it on either side of the bottle.
once in place it doesn't move an inch or make a sound
great and cheap fix
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SprocketMan....I have Carbon Stryke aero bars with bar end shifters. No wires to deal with. I have a short bike, so there isn't a lot of room between the bars and the front tire.
lilscotboy...would you mind taking a photo of what you did and posting it. I have an idea of what you're talking about, but I'd like to see what it actually looks like.
lilscotboy...would you mind taking a photo of what you did and posting it. I have an idea of what you're talking about, but I'd like to see what it actually looks like.
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it's actually off the bike right now (i built a new ride over xmas) but i'll go home and see if i can find the peices (cobble it back together for you)
it worked like a charm by the way
it worked like a charm by the way
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I use the bottle (and the bracket) on my Jammer GTs. Works great, although the directions that come with the bracket leave a little to be desired. I'm also not a huge fan of the mesh "lid". (Would a screw-on lid really have negatively affected the performance? If refill time is a concern, how about a snap-on lid?)
You are correct, the bracket does allow for a bit of "tweaking" as far as height goes, but not a whole lot.
The setup is very secure and quiet when used with the bracket.
Steve
You are correct, the bracket does allow for a bit of "tweaking" as far as height goes, but not a whole lot.
The setup is very secure and quiet when used with the bracket.
Steve
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Thanks Steve. I'm going to order the bracket w/the hope I can make it work. If not, I'm planning on using the behind the seat double bottle cage and I'll sell the Aero setup to someone in my tri-club.
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bit of advice (feel free to take it or not 'cause this is just personal preference), but i tried the behind the seat profile cages and they didn't really work out for me.
I found it hard to locate the bottle and it felt like the time i was up in the saddle drinking was really affecting my rhythm on the bike (could be just a feeling). I don't think it would make such a difference on a long course IM or 1/2 but on oly distance i went with the up front bottle so that i could stay in the earo position for the whole leg.
I found it hard to locate the bottle and it felt like the time i was up in the saddle drinking was really affecting my rhythm on the bike (could be just a feeling). I don't think it would make such a difference on a long course IM or 1/2 but on oly distance i went with the up front bottle so that i could stay in the earo position for the whole leg.
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lilscotboy....I hear you. I do the shorter races, so that's why I bought the aero. I am currently using a cage on the down tube and haven't been drinking enuff during the bike leg. My idea was behind the seat so I could keep cranking. I feel pretty confident I can make the aero bracket work. I appreciate the advice.
RoadToad...I just ordered the bracket from all3sports. Shipping is a rip, but it's the cheapest overall price I found all day. Looked for coupons...no luck. Don't tell me you found it cheaper somewhere else. I prefer to keep my head in the sand!!!
I'll post how it works out. Can somebody comment more on the behind the seat cages?
RoadToad...I just ordered the bracket from all3sports. Shipping is a rip, but it's the cheapest overall price I found all day. Looked for coupons...no luck. Don't tell me you found it cheaper somewhere else. I prefer to keep my head in the sand!!!
I'll post how it works out. Can somebody comment more on the behind the seat cages?
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Doesn't your LBS carry the Aero Drink Bracket??? (I ask because it seems like just about every one around me does.) Anyway...
All3Sports sells a very sweet (but very pricy) setup for drinking in the aero position, which can be seen here...
https://www.all3sports.com/product_in...plashguard-cap
This thing looks very sweet, and holds ~3 bottles worth of liquid. Free shipping, but almost $100.
They also sell an alternative to the Profile behind-the-seat setup, which is not only less expensive, but seems like a better system in that it appears to allow for the use of a small wedge at the same time. You can see it here...
https://www.all3sports.com/product_in...-complete-deal
I'm actually thinking about getting one of these setups to complement my Aero Drink Bottle setup on the front.
Hope this helps.
Steve
All3Sports sells a very sweet (but very pricy) setup for drinking in the aero position, which can be seen here...
https://www.all3sports.com/product_in...plashguard-cap
This thing looks very sweet, and holds ~3 bottles worth of liquid. Free shipping, but almost $100.
They also sell an alternative to the Profile behind-the-seat setup, which is not only less expensive, but seems like a better system in that it appears to allow for the use of a small wedge at the same time. You can see it here...
https://www.all3sports.com/product_in...-complete-deal
I'm actually thinking about getting one of these setups to complement my Aero Drink Bottle setup on the front.
Hope this helps.
Steve
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Steve,
I live in a little town with one bike store. They don't carry a wide variety of things. Only one brand of bike (Trek)...very limited. They are very nice people, but just can't afford to carry alot of inventory. I drove 8 hours round trip (Omaha) just to buy my bike! I support them as much as I can by buying small things, but I save a ton of money ordering online or traveling to Omaha, Kearney, or Lincoln.
This is the behind the seat setup I was looking at. I figured having the bottles at an angle would make it easier to get them out. Maybe they'll fall out easier, too!
Profile Aqua Rack
https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...eid=&pagename=
UPS just sent me an email...should have the bracket on the 20th. Then again we just got 3-4 inches of snow, so maybe not! Thanks for the info.
I live in a little town with one bike store. They don't carry a wide variety of things. Only one brand of bike (Trek)...very limited. They are very nice people, but just can't afford to carry alot of inventory. I drove 8 hours round trip (Omaha) just to buy my bike! I support them as much as I can by buying small things, but I save a ton of money ordering online or traveling to Omaha, Kearney, or Lincoln.
This is the behind the seat setup I was looking at. I figured having the bottles at an angle would make it easier to get them out. Maybe they'll fall out easier, too!
Profile Aqua Rack
https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...eid=&pagename=
UPS just sent me an email...should have the bracket on the 20th. Then again we just got 3-4 inches of snow, so maybe not! Thanks for the info.
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I have one of the Profile bottles. I can use it on my small (48 cm) tri bike with no bracket. I didn't even know there was a bracket.
The only bracket I have used is the one that came with my old JetStream years ago. I liked the old JetStream better than the Profile bottle. I have the sponge from the JetStream that I use as a "lid" in the Profile bottle. I just fit the bottle between my aerobars using the rubber bands. No problem. I love being able to sip away and remain in the aero position. I also love being able to pour water into the bottle during the race...and keep my water right up front. The only thing I don't like is the wind resistance it gives by being out in front. I especially don't like the wind resistance with a strong cross wiind.
The only bracket I have used is the one that came with my old JetStream years ago. I liked the old JetStream better than the Profile bottle. I have the sponge from the JetStream that I use as a "lid" in the Profile bottle. I just fit the bottle between my aerobars using the rubber bands. No problem. I love being able to sip away and remain in the aero position. I also love being able to pour water into the bottle during the race...and keep my water right up front. The only thing I don't like is the wind resistance it gives by being out in front. I especially don't like the wind resistance with a strong cross wiind.
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Originally Posted by lilscotboy
i have to be honest i hated this bottle when i first bought it. kept ending up with sports drink all over the bike when riding over anything but smooth terrain + the noise it made was really bad (rattling).
I went home depot, picked up some fat 1.5" thick velcro (the really heavy duty stuff) wrapped the female around the tri bar and stuck a huge great wad of it on either side of the bottle.
once in place it doesn't move an inch or make a sound
great and cheap fix
I went home depot, picked up some fat 1.5" thick velcro (the really heavy duty stuff) wrapped the female around the tri bar and stuck a huge great wad of it on either side of the bottle.
once in place it doesn't move an inch or make a sound
great and cheap fix
A friend of mine does this, seems to work great for him aswell.
I use one for longer races(olympic +) and all I need are the elastics, and it holds fine...
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I really appreciate the feedback from this thread. I can't wait for the bracket to get here. I rode my trainer last night, with my bottle lying on the couch next to me.
Batman or Ironwoman or anyone else...any feedback on the behind the seat cages?
Batman or Ironwoman or anyone else...any feedback on the behind the seat cages?
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I ordered the Minoura version that I linked you to previously, but, alas, it won't arrive until Monday. So, I'll keep you posted.
I'm really hoping that I'll be able to fit a small wedge under the seat with it (looks like you can from the pics). That'd be a sweet setup, and something that I couldn't do with the Profile Aqua Rack without the bottles ending up very low & tough to reach.
Steve
I'm really hoping that I'll be able to fit a small wedge under the seat with it (looks like you can from the pics). That'd be a sweet setup, and something that I couldn't do with the Profile Aqua Rack without the bottles ending up very low & tough to reach.
Steve
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Originally Posted by Jaybird
Batman or Ironwoman or anyone else...any feedback on the behind the seat cages?
I've never tried the behind the seat cages. I know people who use those exclusively because of the advantage of the bottles not creating a lot of wind resistance when in that position. I just use bottle cages in the regular position on the frame...and my JetStream or Profile bottle on the aeorbars. For me, water bottles in the regular position are easier to grab...plus, I've got my spare tires and tools behind the seat and under the seat.
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For a good read on water bottles:
https://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadin...erbottles.html
You may not want to use that behind the seat setup...
https://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadin...erbottles.html
You may not want to use that behind the seat setup...
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Got the bracket yesterday and installed it. The directions were pretty sad (you were right, Mickstar!!!) However, once installed, I really like it. I am trapped indoors at the moment, as we have snow and ice on the ground, but it worked great on my trainer. It is very stable and provides about 2 inches of clearance from my front tire. Additionally, for those shorter than me, they provide additional pieces to raise it even higher. I will post once I actually use it on the road, but until then, it receives 2 thumbs up for use on my trainer.
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tcsmedes...I use a Camelback when I trail ride/MTB, as I'm not concerned with aerodynamics, speed, extra weight, or transition times. I've never used a Camelback for tri's, and wouldn't probably because of those reasons. Plus, for the shorter distance tri's, I don't think you need that much water...I know you don't have to fill it up...but why have it then?
That wasn't a newbie question, in my humble opinion. Even if it was, that's what these forums are for!
That wasn't a newbie question, in my humble opinion. Even if it was, that's what these forums are for!
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Thanks Jaybird, I hadn't thought about the transition time. I live by my camelback all summer long both on the road and on the trail, on my bike and while running but as you pointed out for sprint distance it is probably overkill and transition times would be an issue, I will eagerly await to hear how you do with the Profile Design Bottle and bracket and potentially follow your lead there.
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tcsmedes...on my trainer it has been fine. As soon as the weather warms up, I'll try it on the REAL road. I plan on trying it at different fill levels, as lilscotboy said his made a mess. My first tri (sprint) is on April 30, so we'll see how it goes there, too. I don't forsee a need for a refill during the bike, but I may try one for kicks.
I don't know what kind of aerobars you have, so you may or may not need the bracket. You may want to go out on a limb and buy the bottle...I won't be on the road until the weather clears. I'm in Nebraska, so who knows how long that will be!!!!
I don't know what kind of aerobars you have, so you may or may not need the bracket. You may want to go out on a limb and buy the bottle...I won't be on the road until the weather clears. I'm in Nebraska, so who knows how long that will be!!!!





