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well its because there is like next to no cusioning. I dont run in them because I need a stability shoe. The nike free are a neutral shoe. Like I said, I walk in them alot. The furthest has probably been about 3km in one go. I had no problems.

Edonis13

none of the stores around here carry them. maybe i should have taken that as a hint, but i didnt and ordered a pair off of ebay anyways. hopefully they work for me.

Edonis13

the free 5.0's were delivered today. wore them around a little bit and then took them out for a 3 miler. by far the most comfortable shoe i have ever worn or ran in. im very glad i picked them up.

AaronDavidson

I just picked up a pair of Newton's yesterday. Supposedly only available in 2 stores int eh country so far. One in their home of Boulder, CO and the other in Arlington Heights, IL (I was in IL for a wedding this weekend), I have not had a chance to do a real run in them yet.

The shoes do not sit 'flat' like a normal shoe. They have extra cushioning that sticks out towards the ball of your foot. I was even given a DVD about the shoes, the Nike Free and others just try to be minimalistic, whereas these help to force you into a better running position. I will post some pictures of them on Monday and give a review of my first run.

Supposedly they take from 10 to 60 miles to get used to and you are supposed to do 2 mile runs.

You can wear them off road.

AaronDavidson

I wore the same size as my Brooks Adrenaline that I normally run in. I got mine from Runner's High 'n Tri.

StalkerZERO

Well I finally figured out that with these shoes you need to go a half size larger than what you normally wear. At least thats what worked for me.
I talked to one of the owner's and they are coming out with a winter version as well as a trail shoe based on their forefoot tech next year.
..........in case you was wondering.

AaronDavidson

A winter version would be nice, since these are completely open. Something more closed, so that I cant see my feet.

StalkerZERO

The owner suggested in the meantime to use neoprene socks with the standard summer shoe. I have a pair that I normally use when cycling but I haven't tried them out with the newtons yet. I'm waiting for when the temperature climbs back up into the forties so I can go running outside again.
Been shopping for a good treadmill for the winter months. I finally gave up running outside in december. I can tolerate the cold only so much.

AaronDavidson

40s? Bah. High 30s is fine to run.

fzrdave

I just ordered a pair of Newton Gravitys, but they sent me an e-mail the following day that they are backordered in my size/model until the second week of January - bummer!

StalkerZERO

Sorry to revive this thread but since I've started this thread I have worn through 3 pairs of newton motion stability trainers. I've loved every mile in them too.
I'm about to run uptown to buy yet another pair but I was wondering........
How do the newtons compare with the new zoot triathlon shoes? How does the forefoot technology in the zoot shoes compare with newton's?

Anyone?

nscrbug

Ok...I have a few questions here. Not really related to the Newton's but running, in general. How does one know whether they are a "forefoot striker" or a "heel striker"? It's never actually been something that I've given any thought to, so I have no clue which type of striker I am. I have been going through a very painful bout of plantar fasciitis on my left foot, so based on that...would I be heel-striking? To add to the confusion...I also have some issues with painful toe numbing (3rd & 4th toes...could be neuroma?) on my right foot. Is it possible to be a heel striker on one foot, but a forefoot striker on the another? Last weekend, I had my running gait analyzed by a well-known Chicago area running shoe store. I was put on a treadmill with a camera aimed at my feet. I was video-taped running in a pair of Mizuno "test shoes". It was concluded that I was a neutral runner and was shown 3 different pairs of cushioning shoes - Saucony Triumph 5's, Nike Vomero 3's, and Adidas Supernova Cushion 7's. I ultimately chose the Nikes, but after my first run in them (on a treadmill at the gym the next day)...my toes on my right foot went numb within the first 1/2 mile. This particular shoe felt as if it had some kind of metatarsal pad in the forefoot, which in my research of neuromas, is actually supposed to help. However, in my case...it made the situation 10x worse! I'm returning the Nikes this weekend, and will most likely go with the Adidas...but I am more confused now then I ever was. Especially since I'm currently wearing a stability shoe and was told that I'm a pronater by a different running shoe store in my area last year. How could I get two totally different results from a gait analysis? And given my feet issues, would I be better off sticking with a stability shoe over a cushioning one? Help!

StalkerZERO

Oh dude.....you definately need a more experienced runner for an opinion. However, what I can say is that forefoot running isn't a physical condition (am I a forefoot runner?) but a method of running. A lot of experts are starting to realize that forefoot striking may be more effiecient than heel striking. Your going to have to experiment to see what style of running best suits you. But what I can say from my experience is that I will only run by the forefoot method.
It is way more efficient and frankly its the only way I can run because of the pain I get with heel striking.

nscrbug

Thanks for trying to help, anyways. Yeah, I've got some issues with my feet that I need to have addressed by a doctor. The plantar fasciitis is way intense. I just thought it was crazy to be told by one store that I'm neutral...only to be told by another store, that I pronate. It's hard to find the right shoe when you don't really know what the right shoe is. I'll have to read up more on this forefoot running method. Oh, and by the way...I'm a "dudette".

thehammerdog

I saw several guys at my biathlon last week wearing them. Newton & Zoot seem tobe the new big boys. Look weird and too costl for me..I wear Sauconys they fit great and are cheap when onsale.. If I had the coin I may try the Zoot/ Newtons..I guess they work the guys wearing them could run.

Eman

I am trying to transition over to a forefoot strike from what now is basically a heel/lower arch strike. I am not a horrible heel striker, but at 6'5, 230lbs, I thought the forefoot strike might take some of the pounding off my knees and hips. Though I am 38, I have been an athelete all my life and ran the 200 and 400 meters in highschool. I thought it would be an easier transition since I used to sprint that way.

So far, my ankles and calves are having a hard time landing and pushing off on my toes for any kind of distance. My chiropractor is a triathlete and he strongly advocates a forefoot strike such as where the heels never touch the ground. I am trying, but it is really hard. Thoughts? I am thinking of buying the Newtons, but if I cannot land the form better, I am not sure I should risk the investment.

AaronDavidson

I wear Newtons, but there is no reason to change your foot strike if you are not experiencing injuries. Longtime runners that change could see more injuries. Just keep landing with your foot directly underneath your body. Also if you are not a hardcore footfoot striker Newtons will be a waste.

StalkerZERO

Well for me the newtons were not a waste. And it didn't take me long to adjust to the new demands the shoe makes on you as it forces you to adopt a forefoot strike. See, the winter before last I was training intensely on the the bike trainer so my muscles were already getting into some kind of shape.
When I started running though (especially using the forefoot strike) it made me use muscles in the legs I wasn't used to.
You will end up using the quads much more and the calves. Knees and heels are spared. However, you will be using the hips more so make sure you stretch the hip muscles along with everything else before and after you run.
Your knees are saved because the forefoot method makes your leg action sort of like a spring with the quads and calves absorbing the impact....not the heel and knees.

By the way, I have a report on the zoot shoe. I went up that same friday in manhattan to paragon sports and tried the new zoot shoe. Its an impressive design that probably does exactly what the designer says it does.......its just not for me.
I have a very large pair of feet with the right side being annoyingly larger than my left foot. I have to wear size 12.5 of the newtons for a good fit. The zoots don't go half sizes after size 12. I tried 12 and 13 but neither had a good enough fit for me. The zoot shoe tends to be narrow up front.....a no no for me.
Plus the lacing system curves along the shoe as it nears the toes so as you lace them up the fit.....just wasn't right. At least it wasn't right for me.
Impressive design though....it just doesn't work for me. I encourage others though to try them to see if its for them.
For me though I'll stick with the newtons. They are incredibly comfortable, supportive, light and it does its job....which is to encourage the forefoot strike.

Triguy

It's not very helpful but I will say this. If 28 minute 10k runners and 2:10 marathoners heel strike, I don't think this is the right way to go.

I read a recent study that found that the same percentage of forefoot strikers were in the front of a race as there were in the back. In my opinion Foot strike is a natural occurence, even people whome I've seen change their stride still strike in pretty much the same place.

The easiest way to get fast at running is by...
1. running more
2. running at anaerobic threshhold
3. doing speed work
4. doing hills

A fairly basic article on running revealed this...
"forefoot strike

# metatarsalgia or stress fracture of the central metatarsal bones commonly occurs in the jogger with forefoot strike because of repetitive large loads onto the central metatarsal heads "

cjbruin

Let me say this about that

I used to have a lot of problems with shin splints and when I saw myself on video, it was easy to see why (major heel striker). Since changing my stride, I haven't had any pain.