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Using Ortlieb back roller on a front rack?

Old 05-18-17, 10:07 AM
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Using Ortlieb back roller on a front rack?

I am a heavy guy and I carry two packed Ortlieb backrollers on my bike on my daily commute. One with office clothes, tools, spare inner tube and one with my laptop bag. Since basically all the weight is on the back and I am probably way above the weight limit of the rear wheel, I like to move some of that weight to the front. I wonder if I can use my back rollers on a front rack. I have the mounting points for a front rack on my bike. One bolt on the side of the fork and two more available mounting point at the bottom. These are 700c tires and the frame is a 61.5cm (24") frame.
I am not sure a low rider rack will work with these tall bags. I think they might be too low but I could be wrong.
These setups seem to be higher and this is what I am looking for:
Not sure what type of rack he is using:
https://maxthecyclist.wordpress.com/...oller-classic/

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Old 05-18-17, 10:22 AM
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On your first link you can look at the "my bicycles" link and see the rack listed. Racktime Top-it front.
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Tubus Smarti front rack will fit the fork you have.. https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=56543

It's Steel tubing. a 'mid rider'.

Bruce Gordon has an even stronger one, it fits further back on either side of the fork.

more over the steering axis .. another non Low rider.. as offered on his BLT-X, a 26" wheel tourer.



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Old 05-18-17, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Tubus Smarti front rack will fit the fork you have.. https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=56543

It's Steel tubing. a 'mid rider'.

Bruce Gordon has an even stronger one, it fits further back on either side of the fork.

more over the steering axis .. another non Low rider.. as offered on his BLT-X, a 26" wheel tourer.
Looks interesting but pricey.

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On your first link you can look at the "my bicycles" link and see the rack listed. Racktime Top-it front.
Thanks for pointing that out. I guess I just didn't look too far down. But not sure if it is still available.

I also stumbled across this one:
Extreme Front Rack Tall Boy - 29er
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tquid/3471858469
But this is pricey too.

Thanks for the links. I keep digging.
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The Jahnd (sp) racks of LowRider style sit higher on the fork than the original Blackburns. I've never had the rear Ortleibs, just the smaller fronts but I am guessing you could run the rears on the Jahnd's as long as you accept that in taking hard corners, they will drag. (Ortleibs take that kind of abuse on an occasional basis very well, abssorbing road rash far better than I do!)

I am a huge fan of LowRiders and putting weight there. Actually makes bikes easier to ride and control in snow and other iffy surfaces as well as not affecting the bike or steering at all when you come out of the saddle to climb. The piece that is different is that the front tire and rim get far more abuse and need to be bigger with more pressure (the tire) and strong (the rim and build).

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I actually decided on the Surly front rack. This has various options to hang my panniers. Plus it has a mounting point up front for my dynamo powered light.
Hopefully I can get it all set up at this weekend. Still need to get my rear wheel re-spoked.
Right now I am using my backup bike which is a 1980s 3-speed Gazelle and I am using my backrollers on a Soma front rack. I can hang them so that the bottom of the panniers almost line up with the hub. So I have plenty of room underneath.
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I have carried the ortlieb back-rollers on a Surly front nice-rack. I also have the rear nice-rack and was able to set the clips on the ortliebs up so that they work well front or rear without having to adjust the clips. I think maybe they swap R-L when going F-R...but can't recall for sure...been a while. I'd do this when I needed to use the top of the rear rack for large items, which interfered with the ortliebs.

I have found that the bike still quite manageable even with a lot of weight in the front panniers, provided it is snugly contained. If it "flops" around, then it can be a problem. Side-side inbalance didn't seem to bother me much, so it was better to have one pannier snugly full than two half-filled and floppy.
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I have been using my backrollers for a while now on the front rack. They work great with the Surly rack. It took me some time to get used to the weight up front but I like it much more since the bike feels way more balanced with my heavy weight on the saddle and the panniers on the front.
I actually do swap them from left to right. Meaning the right one on the rear is now the left one on the front.
I still have the first gen Ortliebs which are not symmetrical. Meaning they are more angled on one side and only have a reflector on the straight side. This way I have the reflector at the front when mounted on the front rack.
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So you got it sorted... Note the mounting pieces on Surly Front racks are their weak point....

There is roughly 4cm further height from bottom to hook on the rear bags than the front.

there have been a couple cycletourists loading just the front of their bikes, most with rear racks load the back.


I use a front rack on my low trail, small wheel bike friday ..




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Yes it works great. The advantage of my old Ortlieb panniers is, that I can adjust the height of the metal hook at the bottom to fit them to different types of racks.
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