bikes at works trailer...
#26
xtrajack
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From: Maine
Bikes: Kona fire mountain/xtracycle,Univega landrover fs,Nishiki custom sport Ross professional super gran tour Schwinn Mesa (future Xtracycle donor bike)
I currently have a Xtracycle and a Burley flatbed trailer. I still want/need two more trailers. I want the long BAW--- trailer model 96A.
I also want this bicycle camping trailer:
https://www.tonystrailers.com/mobileshelter/
I use the Burley for loads I don't want to put in the freeloaders. I also use it to get sand for my driveway in the winter.
I would use the Bikes At Work trailer for large loads, and/or furniture.
I would use the tonystrailers.com trailer for camping
I love my Xtracycle.
I also want this bicycle camping trailer:
https://www.tonystrailers.com/mobileshelter/
I use the Burley for loads I don't want to put in the freeloaders. I also use it to get sand for my driveway in the winter.
I would use the Bikes At Work trailer for large loads, and/or furniture.
I would use the tonystrailers.com trailer for camping
I love my Xtracycle.
#27
xtrajack,
Check out this home-made bicycle camping trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnsu...eature=related
Check out this home-made bicycle camping trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnsu...eature=related
#29
GadgetJim57
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From: Central California
Bikes: Yuba Sweet Curry eBike, Surly Long Haul Trucker
I'm still trying to decide between the 64 wide or the 96 trailer to use with my Surly Long Haul Trucker ....
I will be using the trailer for hauling gardening supplies and other stuff: lots of plants from the nurseries, large bags of potting soil, dirt, rocks, cement blocks, bricks, scrap lumber and other misc. stuff.
I will also use the trailer for stocking up on groceries (lots of canned goods, and other stuff in bulk).
Question: Would the 64 inch trailer be large enough to carry a refrigerator, desk, matresses, and other similar large items?
I will be using the trailer for hauling gardening supplies and other stuff: lots of plants from the nurseries, large bags of potting soil, dirt, rocks, cement blocks, bricks, scrap lumber and other misc. stuff.
I will also use the trailer for stocking up on groceries (lots of canned goods, and other stuff in bulk).
Question: Would the 64 inch trailer be large enough to carry a refrigerator, desk, matresses, and other similar large items?
#30
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Never tried to carry a full size fridge or mattress, but I'd guess you'd need the largest model for tasks such as that. One nice feature is the modular design. If you buy the 96, you can configure a 32 or 64 inch trailer from it. The 32in Bikes@Work trailer would probably meet most of you daily hauling needs, but on the rare occasion that you need the extra capacity, you'll have it.
I wasn't sure whether to get the 32 or the 64. I'm really glad I got the 64, I do a lot with it that I couldn't do with the 32. The 64 is a bit unwieldy, for weaving through traffic and such. I don't think you will want to pull the 96 regularly, but you will have the option. Get a "THIS TRUCK MAKES WIDE RIGHT TURNS" sign, haha.
I wasn't sure whether to get the 32 or the 64. I'm really glad I got the 64, I do a lot with it that I couldn't do with the 32. The 64 is a bit unwieldy, for weaving through traffic and such. I don't think you will want to pull the 96 regularly, but you will have the option. Get a "THIS TRUCK MAKES WIDE RIGHT TURNS" sign, haha.
#31
GadgetJim57
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From: Central California
Bikes: Yuba Sweet Curry eBike, Surly Long Haul Trucker
Never tried to carry a full size fridge or mattress, but I'd guess you'd need the largest model for tasks such as that. One nice feature is the modular design. If you buy the 96, you can configure a 32 or 64 inch trailer from it. The 32in Bikes@Work trailer would probably meet most of you daily hauling needs, but on the rare occasion that you need the extra capacity, you'll have it.
I wasn't sure whether to get the 32 or the 64. I'm really glad I got the 64, I do a lot with it that I couldn't do with the 32. The 64 is a bit unwieldy, for weaving through traffic and such. I don't think you will want to pull the 96 regularly, but you will have the option. Get a "THIS TRUCK MAKES WIDE RIGHT TURNS" sign, haha.
I wasn't sure whether to get the 32 or the 64. I'm really glad I got the 64, I do a lot with it that I couldn't do with the 32. The 64 is a bit unwieldy, for weaving through traffic and such. I don't think you will want to pull the 96 regularly, but you will have the option. Get a "THIS TRUCK MAKES WIDE RIGHT TURNS" sign, haha.
One thing I like about the 64 inch trailer, is that it comes in extra wide!
#32
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You would have to take it apart and put it back together again, the sections don't come apart with quick release levers or anything like that. I've just kept mine at 64in. so I don't know. I think it would be a fairly quick job with a ratchet wrench. All the bolts are the same size.
I like the narrow one because I have to go between bollards such as these.

Also for splitting lanes, but I would never do that, if it happened it was not on purpose. The fenders will support weight, I think they say 200lbs? if I recall correctly, so you can carry loads wider than the trailer. It's tricky though to balance loads on the curved fenders. I prefer to put something on the bed to make a platform above the fenders, then put the wide stuff on top of that. For instance, these boxes, the second row is wider than the trailer bed. Build up and out!
I like the narrow one because I have to go between bollards such as these.

Also for splitting lanes, but I would never do that, if it happened it was not on purpose. The fenders will support weight, I think they say 200lbs? if I recall correctly, so you can carry loads wider than the trailer. It's tricky though to balance loads on the curved fenders. I prefer to put something on the bed to make a platform above the fenders, then put the wide stuff on top of that. For instance, these boxes, the second row is wider than the trailer bed. Build up and out!
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#33
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From: Port Townsend, WA
Bikes: xtracycle, electric recumbent, downtube folder and more
I wish they made the wide in a 96" version. I use it to haul construction equipment behind my Xtracycle. Also the wide loader on the xtra hits the trailer with sharp corners. Need about 3 more inches on that trailer hitch bar.
#34
GadgetJim57
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From: Central California
Bikes: Yuba Sweet Curry eBike, Surly Long Haul Trucker
You would have to take it apart and put it back together again, the sections don't come apart with quick release levers or anything like that. I've just kept mine at 64in. so I don't know. I think it would be a fairly quick job with a ratchet wrench. All the bolts are the same size.
I like the narrow one because I have to go between bollards such as these.

Also for splitting lanes, but I would never do that, if it happened it was not on purpose. The fenders will support weight, I think they say 200lbs? if I recall correctly, so you can carry loads wider than the trailer. It's tricky though to balance loads on the curved fenders. I prefer to put something on the bed to make a platform above the fenders, then put the wide stuff on top of that. For instance, these boxes, the second row is wider than the trailer bed. Build up and out!

I like the narrow one because I have to go between bollards such as these.

Also for splitting lanes, but I would never do that, if it happened it was not on purpose. The fenders will support weight, I think they say 200lbs? if I recall correctly, so you can carry loads wider than the trailer. It's tricky though to balance loads on the curved fenders. I prefer to put something on the bed to make a platform above the fenders, then put the wide stuff on top of that. For instance, these boxes, the second row is wider than the trailer bed. Build up and out!

#35
GadgetJim57
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From: Central California
Bikes: Yuba Sweet Curry eBike, Surly Long Haul Trucker
Sharp corners could be an issue where we live. I'm looking at the 96 inch trailer, and converting it to the 64 inch for the majority of my needs.
#36
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From: New Westminster, BC
Bikes: 2013 Surly Big Dummy, 2008 Giant Rincon, 1980's Raleigh Century, 1970's Apollo Deelite
In Vancouver, BC. they have those poles everywhere on alot of the bike routes I travel on. They are annoying even on two wheels. Later down the road I'll be likely to get a bikes at work trailer, and even now I carefully watch the routes im using to see how asseble they are and which areas have frustrating pinch points.
#37
GadgetJim57
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From: Central California
Bikes: Yuba Sweet Curry eBike, Surly Long Haul Trucker
In Vancouver, BC. they have those poles everywhere on alot of the bike routes I travel on. They are annoying even on two wheels. Later down the road I'll be likely to get a bikes at work trailer, and even now I carefully watch the routes im using to see how asseble they are and which areas have frustrating pinch points.
#38
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I just wrote to Bikes at Work and they will make the 96A in the wide version. Yaa! If the bollards on the bike ways are too close together in your city, go to the city government, find out who controls that and see if they can change it. Go with all the info you need to prove your case, typical width of a trailer, an example of a trouble spot, what width will work, etc. I am on our local Non-Motorized Board and we can usually correct these things -it takes a while.
#39
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Yeah, I'll write a letter to NSA to widen the gaps between those bollards in front of the White House. Haha. Really, I'm just happy they allow me to cut through there. Trucks were banned from that area following the Oklahoma City bombing, but for me they make an exception.
The narrow 63 is plenty long and wide for me. I have been sent on a job that was too big for my current rig, but only once. I'd love to see pictures of your extracycle/96 B@W fully loaded. How often do you find yourself with insufficient capacity?
The narrow 63 is plenty long and wide for me. I have been sent on a job that was too big for my current rig, but only once. I'd love to see pictures of your extracycle/96 B@W fully loaded. How often do you find yourself with insufficient capacity?
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#42
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Very nice! https://hpm.catoregon.org/?page_id=83
I think the 2'x5' bed on my B@W fits my needs better than 3'x4'. No splitting lanes or bollards with that baby! Definitely greater capacity though, nicer wheels, looks well designed and well made.. Thanks for making me aware of the HPM trailers.
I think the 2'x5' bed on my B@W fits my needs better than 3'x4'. No splitting lanes or bollards with that baby! Definitely greater capacity though, nicer wheels, looks well designed and well made.. Thanks for making me aware of the HPM trailers.
#43
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Vegenaise: what would you haul with the HPM trailer that would fit on the platform but also weighed 800lbs?
It seems like the HPM has the B@W trumped as far as weight capacity, but the B@W has the advantage as far as the ability to carry awkward, long loads depending on the model.
It seems like the HPM has the B@W trumped as far as weight capacity, but the B@W has the advantage as far as the ability to carry awkward, long loads depending on the model.
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Vegenaise: what would you haul with the HPM trailer that would fit on the platform but also weighed 800lbs?
It seems like the HPM has the B@W trumped as far as weight capacity, but the B@W has the advantage as far as the ability to carry awkward, long loads depending on the model.
It seems like the HPM has the B@W trumped as far as weight capacity, but the B@W has the advantage as far as the ability to carry awkward, long loads depending on the model.
and well, for your first question, my courier job at hpm was more of a cargo courier as thats what i was doing 80% of the time and i would do anything from bulk dry goods (600lbs), the local weeklies newspapers (800 lbs), to stuff for the shop.
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I don't think Costello is completely wrong, ie. with regards to really long items. You can only have so much of the item sticking out beyond the end of the trailer before it becomes problematic. The longest B@W is going to work better for certain items, although I've never had the need to carry anything longer than six or seven feet long, so it's not really an issue for me.
I've flipped my narrow B@W a couple times. Does the stability of the HPM have as much to do with the hitch location as with the width? After all, the smaller model is narrower than a wide B@W. One thing about the B@W is it doesn't take you down when it flips. If you made a sharp turn fast enough to flip the HPM, it could result in some road rash, but from what you're telling us, this doesn't happen. It sounds like you've put it through it's paces so I'll take your word on that.
Do you also have experience with the smaller model? It's not really fair to compare the bigger, wider HPM to a narrow B@W. A B@W model 96wide is less expensive than the large HPM, and has a significantly larger platform.
The HPM looks like it will handle items wider than the bed better than a B@W. Much easier to balance stuff on those rails vs, on the B@W's fenders I would guess. I like the short rail on my trailer, I can carry a lot of stuff without strapping it down, because that rail keeps it from sliding off. Stuff that would slide into the wheels or off the back of a HPM, although a short guard rail could be improvised fairly easily, I suppose.
Both brands seem kind of overpriced yet totally worth the money, if that makes any sense. I carry freight 100%. If you want me to carry your envelope, you need to put it in a box first, haha. Still feel like the narrow B@W fits my needs better than the HPM, I'm rarely dispatched a job bigger than 200lbs. and I like that it's no wider than my handlebars, but overall, the HPM looks like a better trailer.
I've flipped my narrow B@W a couple times. Does the stability of the HPM have as much to do with the hitch location as with the width? After all, the smaller model is narrower than a wide B@W. One thing about the B@W is it doesn't take you down when it flips. If you made a sharp turn fast enough to flip the HPM, it could result in some road rash, but from what you're telling us, this doesn't happen. It sounds like you've put it through it's paces so I'll take your word on that.
Do you also have experience with the smaller model? It's not really fair to compare the bigger, wider HPM to a narrow B@W. A B@W model 96wide is less expensive than the large HPM, and has a significantly larger platform.
The HPM looks like it will handle items wider than the bed better than a B@W. Much easier to balance stuff on those rails vs, on the B@W's fenders I would guess. I like the short rail on my trailer, I can carry a lot of stuff without strapping it down, because that rail keeps it from sliding off. Stuff that would slide into the wheels or off the back of a HPM, although a short guard rail could be improvised fairly easily, I suppose.
Both brands seem kind of overpriced yet totally worth the money, if that makes any sense. I carry freight 100%. If you want me to carry your envelope, you need to put it in a box first, haha. Still feel like the narrow B@W fits my needs better than the HPM, I'm rarely dispatched a job bigger than 200lbs. and I like that it's no wider than my handlebars, but overall, the HPM looks like a better trailer.
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