Nightshade

More rubbish.

jr59

If you all make it down here, please let me know. We will all go laugh at the racer boys, Tri geeks, and Maybe Nightsade too!

JusticeZero

I'm already here, myself..
I've just been painfully shown that I have no wind, so go easy on me. =)

bluefoxicy

If you want quality American craftsmanship, buy a Trek bicycle.

If you want quality craftsmanship from anyone else, stay away from American made bikes.

Nightshade

A very inaccurate broad brush you're painting American goods with that goes a long way towards outsourcing of the few American jobs left.

A foolish statement indeed.......

Food stamps anyone?

JusticeZero

Maybe if american made wasn't so often synonymous with rubbish, you wouldn't see that sort of statement.
Besides, in conversation with unemployed, poor Americans, I am often told that they consider factory work to be beneath them.

bluefoxicy

Once, the Mexican president said that America should be grateful for illegal Mexican immigrants taking the jobs "even the blacks won't do."

I facepalmed pretty hard (the whole world did, I'm sure); but besides the obvious, that really does reflect poorly on America's self-absorbed entitlement workforce. I've avoided fast food because standing over a grease fryer makes my face burn horribly; it's physically painful, so I won't do it. It's not "beneath" me, though; if I could cover my face with something that would protect my overly sensitive skin from hot grease vapors (seriously wtf?), I'd do it.

Americans have no pride in their work; they just want to be lazy and collect money. Factory work requires actual work, and so is beneath people; the highest valued job is sitting on the corner collecting hand-outs.

Nightshade

Boy! Are you running with the wrong crowd!

It's little wonder that you got so anal over a bit of rust when all your friends are the elite of society.

Nightshade

Lazy? Entitled? You sure as hell ain't talking about MY generation!!!!

What you say may apply to most under 40 but not Americans who grew up with pride in hard work.

JusticeZero

I don't so much care about how "your generation" thinks as I do about the people who are doing things NOW. "Grandpa Joe made the best widgets in the world!" That might be so, but his grandson Jimmy makes sloppy trash, and since Jimmy is the one who's making the widgets now, it does not matter how good Grandpa Joe's reputation for quality is.

bluefoxicy

Look at the under 40 voting crowd now. Look at politics. The liberals/democrats/whatever are the big thing today; all these people who fancy themselves "smart" think they're "forward thinking" and whatever else. They're all hippies. And what do they campaign on? "Entitlements." Social security, free healthcare, taxing (robbing) the rich to give to the poor, etc.

These are hot politics because that's exactly what people want these days: free stuff. It's not because "it's politics," it's because "people are lazy and want everything for nothing." These are the people that avoid work, that join unions and cry that they shouldn't have to do something that's "not their job," and then scream when someone else does something that actually is their job because it threatens their job security. They're the ones looking for a desk job, sitting in front of a computer, sleeping for 7 hours a day. They all want to be managers so they can tell employees to do things and then not do any work; or they want a simple job that doesn't involve doing anything requiring thought or physical effort.

Everyone who's below the bar has this vision that an office job means sitting in your chair playing on the computer all day. They all want to be business owners because they get to play golf and get paid for it. They want to be managers because they just e-mail someone and say, "Build this car." They think there's no accountability in those fields, but there is ... but then you get them into those positions and they do horrible work, and blame everyone else.

That's America. Can I go home now?

FunkyStickman

There's still a few top-quality American-made cargo bikes out there, but Worksman doesn't make them, and they're not cheap. If you want good quality for a cheap price, you get stuff made in China. If you want good quality and made in America, you're going to pay a premium.

American made, quality, or inexpensive: pick any two.

dscheidt

Take your political crap where it belongs.

robyr

You sound incredibly whiney. No one in MY poor ass town says factory work is beneath them. Ever. Minimum starting wages for operators here is $10 an hour. That is good damn money, and no person that does the cost-benefit on this position would take a minimum wage retail dead-end position. Sometimes, reading your posts on this forum, I wonder if you are on the same planet I am.

Funnier still, for all your hard talk elsewhere, a comment about your "sensitive skin" is pretty interesting. What, pray tell, do YOU do Mr. "I only buy quality, yet I drive a Mazda 3"? Are you in a professional occupation? Or are you just another wage-slave?

JusticeZero

Can we please cut the political garbage?

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