Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Winter Cycling
Reload this Page >

THIN thermal layer for the head

Winter Cycling Don't let snow and ice discourage you this winter. The key element to year-round cycling is proper attire! Check out this winter cycling forum to chat with other ice bike fanatics.

THIN thermal layer for the head

Reply

Old 01-04-17, 10:09 AM
  #1  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
THIN thermal layer for the head

pondering some ideas about head covering(s)

at 33-38 degrees, last weekend, I rode alternating between the hooded sweatshirt, a thin knit hat & nothing except a thin helmet cover. the 2 thermal items were too much & just the helmet cover wasn't quite right. wondering if the thin poly or cotton head-sweats was more in order. but those seem more for fall/spring. was thinking maybe just a cycling headband would have done the trick, but I can't find mine ;-(

anyone got a head cover they use that's just right for when it's cool, but not cold?

Last edited by rumrunn6; 01-27-17 at 08:54 AM.
rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 10:24 AM
  #2  
Lanceoldstrong
Family, Health, Cycling
 
Lanceoldstrong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 1,587

Bikes: Roubaix S-Works, Univega Gran Turismo

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
I have one of these and love, love, love it: https://www.rei.com/product/784560/smartwool-balaclava

Paper thin, but warm as toast without being too warm.
I pull it up over nose and mouth when it is really cold.
Other times, I just have it cover head, ears, neck, and chin.
It is very versatile.
Lanceoldstrong is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 10:50 AM
  #3  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
hmmm, thanks. I have stuff like that. I'm sorry, I meant for when something like that is too much in any configuration
rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 11:20 AM
  #4  
unionmanbirch
Senior Member
 
unionmanbirch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: South Shore, MA
Posts: 68

Bikes: Origami Crane 8, 2013 Trek 3500, 1998 Lemond Tourmalet, 1985 Schwinn Voyageur

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
hmmm, thanks. I have stuff like that. I'm sorry, I meant for when something like that is too much in any configuration
I find the Smartwool balaclava to work fine when it is 30-40*, but too thin and light for colder than that. I also have a Louis Garneau skull cap that is very thin and blocks the wind well when I don't want anything on my neck.
unionmanbirch is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 11:30 AM
  #5  
ptempel
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Jersry the beautiful Garden State
Posts: 1,879

Bikes: 2007 Ridley Excalibur, 2003 Orbea Orca, 199? Cannondale Headshock MTB hardtail

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 499 Post(s)
For 30's, I just wear an old Louis Garneau winter cap. Its an old model but is something like this one:

https://garneau.com/us/en/cycling/po...r/black-020-60

Important for me is that it covers the ears. For 20's, I'll use a thin lycra balaklava in addition to the winter cap.
ptempel is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 12:12 PM
  #6  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
like something between these 2 things

rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 12:13 PM
  #7  
Hiro11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,830

Bikes: To the right: opinions, not facts.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 326 Post(s)
This really depends on the person. I like to overdress a bit, I'll always err on a being a bit too warm over a bit too cold. 40-50 I just wear a cycling cap, I have stacks of them. 25-40, I like Smartwool's thin/tight running beanies under the helmet + a wool neck gaiter. Below 25, I go with a balaclava or even a ski helmet (if it's really cold).
Hiro11 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 12:18 PM
  #8  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Originally Posted by Hiro11 View Post
Smartwool's thin/tight running beanies
hmmm yeah ok I'll look at these. the knit hat was just too warm

rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 12:28 PM
  #9  
revcp 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Posts: 909

Bikes: 2011 Surly Troll, 2015 Borealis Yampa, 1985 Trek 720

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 103 Post(s)
Anything like a balaclava is much to warm for me at that temp as well. From the low 30s up I wear a Halo Skull Cap. https://www.rei.com/product/831657/halo-skull-cap?CAWELAID=120217890000871534&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=15877514680&CATCI=aud-129902659960la-118325773720&cm_mmc=PLA_Google|404_9299|8316570001|none|ea579a4b-664d-4b88-8cfd-0a5723b75b3a|aud-129902659960la-118325773720&lsft=cm_mmcLA_Google_LIA|404_9299|8316570001|none|ea579a4b-664d-4b88-8cfd-0a5723b75b3a|aud-129902659960la-118325773720&gclid=CjwKEAiA17LDBRDElqOGq8vR7m8SJAA1AC0_TEVuQmsovgn0ubJ2YmTX3Fhppk96RoYRlQ13RGduURoCT hHw_wcB. Low 30s to around 5F I have an ibex cap that's perfect. Ibex Merino Wool Unisex Woolies 2 Earflap Beanie Hat 5F and lower I put a merino buff around my neck and, depending on temp and wind, pull it up over my chin and put the top up around my head so that it's like a balaclava. I'll wear a balaclava when I'm stationary, but it's too warm for riding.
__________________
Don't complain about the weather and cower in fear. It's all good weather. Just different.
revcp is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 12:29 PM
  #10  
MRT2
Senior Member
 
MRT2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 5,843

Bikes: 2012 Salsa Casseroll, 2009 Kona Blast, 1997 Bianchi Advantage, 1994 Trek 930.

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 819 Post(s)
Something like a headsweats winter beanie might work. I have two, one headsweat branded, the other generic. Oddly enough, I usually prefer the generic one. I also recently bought a Trek/Bontrager winter cycling hat identical to this one.Bontrager Classique Thermal Cycling Cap | Trek Bikes
MRT2 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 02:32 PM
  #11  
GrooveRite
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: NYC
Posts: 60

Bikes: 2010 Rockhopper Expert Disc (26er)

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26 Post(s)
I just got my PI Barrier balaclava and I LOVE IT!! Thin synthetic creates a very nice seal around my face and has windblock membrane around forehead and ears! Using it between 32-50 though. I think below freezing temps you'll want something warmer. I have the CTR Howler waiting to be tested in those freezing conditions!
GrooveRite is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 03:40 PM
  #12  
browngw 
Adventure Rider
 
browngw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Port Dover Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,061

Bikes: 1958 Sun Cresta, 1965 Dilecta Le Blanc, 1971 Robin Hood Sports, 1976 SuperCycle Excalibur, 1979 Raleigh DL1 Tourist, 2014 Salsa Vaya, 2017 Felt DD70 Fatbike, 2016 Giant ATX27.5, 2012 Giant Halfway Folder, and others

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 158 Post(s)
The "Buff" brand head covers work great for me between 25F and 50F. They are super thin, easy to clean and the one shown is reversible. I purchased them (I have two) at a runners shop.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
DSC_0409[1].jpg (92.9 KB, 234 views)
__________________
We are what we reflect. We are the changes that we bring to this world. Ride often. -Geo.-
browngw is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 03:44 PM
  #13  
caloso
Packfodding 3
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 36,953

Bikes: Ridley Excalibur, Gazelle Champion Mondial, On-One Pompino, Specialized Rock Hopper

Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1376 Post(s)
I cut the elastic out of an old clapped out knee warmer. I pull in down around my ears and it's snug enough without the elastic to stay on my head, and thin enough to fit well under a helmet.
caloso is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 04:10 PM
  #14  
1989Pre 
Standard Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,717
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 684 Post(s)
Wear two if you have to: Skull Cap White Coolmax
1989Pre is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 04:11 PM
  #15  
1989Pre 
Standard Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,717
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 684 Post(s)
Originally Posted by caloso View Post
I cut the elastic out of an old clapped out knee warmer. I pull in down around my ears and it's snug enough without the elastic to stay on my head, and thin enough to fit well under a helmet.

Wow! Now, that's using your head..!
1989Pre is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 04:56 PM
  #16  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Village, New York City
Posts: 34,599

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1973 Raleigh Twenty, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 344 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4031 Post(s)
Some hats are not warm enough, and some are too warm. I recently got this hat, and I love it. I wear it on and off the bike. It fits under my helmet easily. I wear it in a wide range of temperatures.

Castelli Risvolto
__________________
Tom Reingold, [email protected]
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 06:33 PM
  #17  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Originally Posted by noglider View Post
that's got style
rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-17, 07:55 PM
  #18  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Village, New York City
Posts: 34,599

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1973 Raleigh Twenty, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 344 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4031 Post(s)
Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
that's got style
It's even better in person. I also got a Castelli jacket which is fantastic.
__________________
Tom Reingold, [email protected]
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-17, 08:36 AM
  #19  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Originally Posted by noglider View Post
It's even better in person. I also got a Castelli jacket which is fantastic.
matching color?
rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-17, 09:54 AM
  #20  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Village, New York City
Posts: 34,599

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1973 Raleigh Twenty, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 344 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4031 Post(s)
The color in real life is different from the web page. I think these pictures capture it better, even though I don't like selfies.















Also, check out the jacket I got from the same vendor. I love it. Yesterday, I commuted in cool weather with very heavy winds. All I wore above my waist were a wool t-shirt and this very thin jacket/jersey/cardigan. Everyone else was heavily bundled up. It's extremely snug (by design) so get a very large size. I got the size Large, spec'd at a 39-1/2" chest, which is my measurement. If I were a tiny bit bigger, it wouldn't fit.

Castelli Men's Costante Jersey FZ


__________________
Tom Reingold, [email protected]
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-17, 10:53 AM
  #21  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Originally Posted by noglider View Post
I don't like selfies
but sometimes a useful sacrifice
rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-17, 10:56 AM
  #22  
FrankHudson
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 219

Bikes: Five active bikes: 1983 Diamondback RidgeRunner (early production mountain bike), 1951 Raleigh Sports 3spd, 2012 Novara Safari, 2013 Schwinn 411 IGH, 2016 Jamis Roughneck Fatbike; plus a Trek T900 tandem shared with the family

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18 Post(s)
For too hot for headcovering and too cold for bare ears days I wear a full shell "urban" helmet and a earband. The urban helmet has rear vents and air space above the head so it "breathes" that way.

Another way to look at this: you sweat in the summer and have wet hair when riding hard, why are you concerned that you do the same in the winter **IF** you have something that doesn't stop being somewhat insulating when it get hits with sweat?
FrankHudson is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-17, 12:04 PM
  #23  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Originally Posted by FrankHudson View Post
For too hot for headcovering and too cold for bare ears days I wear a full shell "urban" helmet and a earband. The urban helmet has rear vents and air space above the head so it "breathes" that way
yeah I guess I was kind of jury rigging something similar when I took off the hat/hood & used the helmet cover. but I still needed my cycling headband which I can't find
rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-17, 12:07 PM
  #24  
rumrunn6
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 20,271

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint

Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2186 Post(s)
Originally Posted by FrankHudson View Post
you sweat in the summer and have wet hair when riding hard, why are you concerned that you do the same in the winter **IF** you have something that doesn't stop being somewhat insulating when it get hits with sweat?
I was too hot with the hat or the hood after a while so I took them off to cool off. I was hoping for another covering that wouldn't make me so hot. the thin smartwool running beanie might be just the ticket & less expensive than a new helmet. admittedly tho, my fully vented summer helmet does seem out of place in the winter
rumrunn6 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-17, 01:59 PM
  #25  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Village, New York City
Posts: 34,599

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1973 Raleigh Twenty, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 344 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4031 Post(s)
I've worn this thin Castelli hat in various conditions. I didn't expect it to be good for under 35º, but it works for me.

I've worn it without a helmet (while walking and whatever) and under my summer helmet. When it gets cold out, I wear a ski helmet with this hat or something else under it. If you don't have a ski helmet, consider it. It was transformational for me when I got it last year. Some very painful days became no problem at all.
__________________
Tom Reingold, [email protected]
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is online now  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service