Strapless Toe Clips
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Strapless Toe Clips
I usually use clipless pedals but I plan on continuing my riding through this winter. As such, I won't be able to depend on my typical cycling shoes. Seeing the prices of cycling boots, I'm inclined to forgo that option. $250 for boots of vastly lower quality than comparable non-cycling boots seems impractical. They don't even have properly welted soles.
I see there are plenty of options for strapless toe clips. I see them referred to as half toe clips as well. I'll also want a good pair of non-slip platforms to mate them to. My question is this: I wear size 13 shoes and I plan on using boots. Which of these clips will be large enough to accommodate?
I see there are plenty of options for strapless toe clips. I see them referred to as half toe clips as well. I'll also want a good pair of non-slip platforms to mate them to. My question is this: I wear size 13 shoes and I plan on using boots. Which of these clips will be large enough to accommodate?
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Plastic half clips from a MTB should do the trick... https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bicycle+h...l_4oj5mda5y1_e
Do a quick google search!
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I have size 13 feet & uses size 14 Columbia winter boots. they're big
I use these clips & snap off the top part & file the edge smooth. these are good cuz I can bend them a little to open them up a little more
Mks Double Strap Toe Clip L

I use these pedal extenders so that my foot can be positioned comfortably left to right
Sunlite Pedal Extenders
I use these tubes from the hardware store cut to approx. 15mm long. I also had to buy bolts washers & nuts just the right size to hold everything in place, so that my foot can be positioned comfortably front to rear

have to slide the 1/2 clip in toward the frame to help keep it centered on the foot (not the pedal). it's not perfect but it's the best I can do. someone should invent a big pedal that meets these specs for our purpose

without those adjustments my feet were hanging off the side & I was pedaling more w my toes that the better part of the foot. I leave these all on year round cuz it's hassle. turns out they just fine the rest of the year with hiking shoes



regular plastic clips aren't designed for big fat winter boots

my system provides basic foot placement & also some retention. it would be nice to find even bigger clips but I haven't
I use these clips & snap off the top part & file the edge smooth. these are good cuz I can bend them a little to open them up a little more
Mks Double Strap Toe Clip L

I use these pedal extenders so that my foot can be positioned comfortably left to right
Sunlite Pedal Extenders
I use these tubes from the hardware store cut to approx. 15mm long. I also had to buy bolts washers & nuts just the right size to hold everything in place, so that my foot can be positioned comfortably front to rear

have to slide the 1/2 clip in toward the frame to help keep it centered on the foot (not the pedal). it's not perfect but it's the best I can do. someone should invent a big pedal that meets these specs for our purpose

without those adjustments my feet were hanging off the side & I was pedaling more w my toes that the better part of the foot. I leave these all on year round cuz it's hassle. turns out they just fine the rest of the year with hiking shoes



regular plastic clips aren't designed for big fat winter boots

my system provides basic foot placement & also some retention. it would be nice to find even bigger clips but I haven't
Last edited by rumrunn6; 11-03-19 at 06:10 PM.
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I've been out of the platform pedal market for some time. I've only used the slick-when-wet ubiquitous plastic platforms and the old-style touring style that mate well with conventional strap/clip systems.
I've been eyeing the newer mountain pedals with the pins. Allegedly, they provide great grip. Downside is that they won't work well with toe clips due to the asymmetrical leading face on most without putting in some work. I feel as though the clipless system has become a bit of a crutch as I've been depending on them for proper foot-pedal orientation. Perhaps I'm best off giving the newer mountain platforms a try and then considering clips. I suppose I could always rig up a mounting plate for clips on any of the pedals that are thick enough.
I saw the Zefal toe clips which prompted this thread on Amazon. I was also thinking that metal is better due to ability to reashape as needed. MKS apparently makes a strapless version so that cutting and chamfering the strapped version isn't needed.
I've been eyeing the newer mountain pedals with the pins. Allegedly, they provide great grip. Downside is that they won't work well with toe clips due to the asymmetrical leading face on most without putting in some work. I feel as though the clipless system has become a bit of a crutch as I've been depending on them for proper foot-pedal orientation. Perhaps I'm best off giving the newer mountain platforms a try and then considering clips. I suppose I could always rig up a mounting plate for clips on any of the pedals that are thick enough.
I saw the Zefal toe clips which prompted this thread on Amazon. I was also thinking that metal is better due to ability to reashape as needed. MKS apparently makes a strapless version so that cutting and chamfering the strapped version isn't needed.
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yeah saw those. they still look too shallow for my feet & would benefit from those tube extensions mentioned above. try the big MTB pedals w/ pins & see how it goes. easy peasy, buy 'em & install them, done!
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Regarding off vs on roading, I do both. I've decided to set up my bike for it: a drop bar 29er after playing around a bit with a CX-esque road bike. I ride some pretty rough trails, in addition to the road and the latter bike hasn't been up to the challenge.
I got myself a pair of modern flat pedals in the mail today and I will give them a test run this weekend. If I find the foot traction adequate, I may eschew clipless for quite a while.
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I was considering the Velo Orange Grand Cru Sabot pedal, until I realized that a toe-clip on it might be too long for my foot. Maybe this combo would work for a large foot.
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What you want are Power Grips. They have large sizes that will accommodate boots. You bolt them to the flat pedal of your choice.
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What you want are Power Grips. They have large sizes that will accommodate boots. You bolt them to the flat pedal of your choice.
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I have size 13 feet & uses size 14 Columbia winter boots. they're big
I use these clips & snap off the top part & file the edge smooth. these are good cuz I can bend them a little to open them up a little more
Mks Double Strap Toe Clip L

I use these pedal extenders so that my foot can be positioned comfortably left to right
Sunlite Pedal Extenders
I use these tubes from the hardware store cut to approx. 15mm long. I also had to buy bolts washers & nuts just the right size to hold everything in place, so that my foot can be positioned comfortably front to rear

have to slide the 1/2 clip in toward the frame to help keep it centered on the foot (not the pedal). it's not perfect but it's the best I can do. someone should invent a big pedal that meets these specs for our purpose

without those adjustments my feet were hanging off the side & I was pedaling more w my toes that the better part of the foot. I leave these all on year round cuz it's hassle. turns out they just fine the rest of the year with hiking shoes
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I use these clips & snap off the top part & file the edge smooth. these are good cuz I can bend them a little to open them up a little more
Mks Double Strap Toe Clip L

I use these pedal extenders so that my foot can be positioned comfortably left to right
Sunlite Pedal Extenders
I use these tubes from the hardware store cut to approx. 15mm long. I also had to buy bolts washers & nuts just the right size to hold everything in place, so that my foot can be positioned comfortably front to rear

have to slide the 1/2 clip in toward the frame to help keep it centered on the foot (not the pedal). it's not perfect but it's the best I can do. someone should invent a big pedal that meets these specs for our purpose

without those adjustments my feet were hanging off the side & I was pedaling more w my toes that the better part of the foot. I leave these all on year round cuz it's hassle. turns out they just fine the rest of the year with hiking shoes
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I ride with size 13W boots so I need something like this. That's year-round for me. I'm probably a 12 or 12.5 foot but I use custom orthotics in my shoes so I need the bigger size.
I've read that MKS clips come in two sizes, including a bigger one with some vertical depth to make room for bigger shoes. Is that what the MKS L is? For some reason I thought they called that size XL. Maybe I'm not remembering that right.
I'm also using pedal extenders. I'm having a problem because the extender diameter raises it above the top of the pedal, meaning a lug of my boot can sometimes ride on that and make my foot pivot around that high point. One side of my pedal is taller than the other, and it only happens on the shorter side.
I've been expecting to cut a wood block and drill it to do the same thing you're doing with plastic tubes.
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I would consider trying these
MKS Half Clip Deep Steel Toe Clips
or these
MKS Half Cage Clip (Size Large, 55mm Deep)
MKS Half Clip Deep Steel Toe Clips
or these
MKS Half Cage Clip (Size Large, 55mm Deep)
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Honestly, I'm tired of cycling shoes. I've never liked the idea of having cycling-specific shoes and I've been using them for years. I'm aware of the benefits of stiffer soles but I'm not really one for purchasing modest efficiency at the cost of practicality. I've considered shoe covers but that would only add to that. There's also the complaints of lack of durability of shoe covers and I'm hard on equipment.
1. Your foot stay attached to the pedal while wildly sprinting
2. You can exert more power for short sprints (but at the cost of burning more energy)
So basically it does have uses if you're seriously racing, but outside of that it's pretty much a draw - use whatever you like better.
You can get clipless-level traction in every direction (except pulling up on the pedal obviously) with two things:
1. Flats with metal pins
2. Five Ten bike-specific shoes. They're flat on the bottom, but use a specific rubber compound that grips the pins very strongly.
Here's the five then shoe closest to what I wear:
https://www.adidasoutdoor.com/five-t...men-bike-shoes




