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I bet

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#27
very. highly. focused.
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Originally Posted by thebulls
Heat exchanger facemask or balaklava is the best solution I've found. ... Check it out at:
https://www.psolar.com/
https://www.psolar.com/
Put on a set of goggles and George Lucas might mistake you for an extra.
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Question was: does the heat exchanger face mask make your glasses fog.
Answer: not any more than just a regular scarf/neck gaiter/balaklava/whatever.
I found that if I made sure to tilt my head up a bit and breathe through the heat exchanger, that the vapor just drifts away.
But I always found that fog is a problem when I've been riding hard and then suddenly stop for a light, no matter what I wear or do. That would be a different thread, though.
Answer: not any more than just a regular scarf/neck gaiter/balaklava/whatever.
I found that if I made sure to tilt my head up a bit and breathe through the heat exchanger, that the vapor just drifts away.
But I always found that fog is a problem when I've been riding hard and then suddenly stop for a light, no matter what I wear or do. That would be a different thread, though.
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Originally Posted by Merryish
Hee! Now there's a choice... catch a cold, or look like a sand creature...
Put on a set of goggles and George Lucas might mistake you for an extra.
Put on a set of goggles and George Lucas might mistake you for an extra.I'm sure that StyleMan from Bicycling magazine would disapprove, which is all the more reason to not care!
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Originally Posted by Diggy18
There was one winter that I kept up my jogging, and it seemed like I was sick all the time.
That heat exchanger thing looks pretty cool. Does it really work? And it doesn't get all wet around the mouth? It's hard to believe.
That heat exchanger thing looks pretty cool. Does it really work? And it doesn't get all wet around the mouth? It's hard to believe.
The "Vapor Shield" accessory only stayed on for about three trips, and didn't really seem to help so I never tried to stick it back on. 'Course, maybe they've improved it. Also, the dessicant that they ship it with smelled odd to me, but that only lasts a couple of days.
The product is guaranteed, so you can try it and return it if you don't like it.
My wife bought it for me for Xmas last year. She got me the balaklava, but then I bought myself a face mask, which I like better, and she wears the balaklava. I like the face mask best, because you can just wear that on warmer days, and you can put a hat on for cooler days. Also, the face mask just closes in the back with velcro, so if you feel too hot you can just take it off while you're riding, and stick it in a pocket.
I'm not associated in any way with pSolar, but did talk with the inventor (because of the smell) and he seemed like a really nice guy. You can buy these through Herrington's, but I'd guess that the inventor gets more if you buy it from his website at www.psolar.com
It's a little bit funny-looking, but so is showing up at work with a bike with studded tires, and neoprene booties, and weird looking gloves, and a miner's lamp on your bike helmet. I just tell my kids I'm using the Force.
And like I said in my first post, last winter is the first winter I've ever been able to keep riding through the whole winter, without getting stopped by a cold, and then never getting started again. Typical DC winter--trails covered with snow for probably a total of a month; covered with patches of ice in between snow-melts for maybe another month. About four months where the morning temp was below the mid-30's; a couple weeks below the mid-20's.
Happy riding.
#33
These works. !
You breathe trough a steel grid that holds on to the moisture when you breathe out, and ads it to the air you breathe in.
Hardly no resistance at all, but makes it more difficult to drink of cause.
They are made in Finland, and I promise you they have winters there.
The name of the company is Soumen Jonas Oy
You breathe trough a steel grid that holds on to the moisture when you breathe out, and ads it to the air you breathe in.
Hardly no resistance at all, but makes it more difficult to drink of cause.
They are made in Finland, and I promise you they have winters there.
The name of the company is Soumen Jonas Oy
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With these heat-controller type maskes....does your nose *not* run then?
Looks good...Which product is this? Please post a URL Link for purchasing if possible.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by Lectron
These works. !
Hardly no resistance at all, but makes it more difficult to drink of cause.
They are made in Finland, and I promise you they have winters there.
The name of the company is Soumen Jonas Oy
Hardly no resistance at all, but makes it more difficult to drink of cause.
They are made in Finland, and I promise you they have winters there.
The name of the company is Soumen Jonas Oy
Thanks.
#35
I don't seem to find any url. In Norway they are distributed by the Norwegian Astma and allergic association (NAAF), and Ithink you get them for free if you have breathing trouble due to cold, dry air (astma) etc.
Since I don't suffer from any inspiration illness, I had to puchase one, and I think I paid around $45
Give them a mail at naaf@naaf.no, and they might be able to help you about any didtributers in the states.
Since I don't suffer from any inspiration illness, I had to puchase one, and I think I paid around $45
Give them a mail at naaf@naaf.no, and they might be able to help you about any didtributers in the states.
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Originally Posted by thebulls
Heat exchanger facemask or balaklava is the best solution I've found. Balaklavas or scarfs get damp and icy, plus they really can't warm the air up much. A heat exchanger uses the warmth you just blew out to heat up the air you're sucking in. Usually, I get colds as soon as winter comes, from breathing hard in cold air, but last winter I rode with the heat exchanger and never got a cold. Check it out at:
https://www.psolar.com/
https://www.psolar.com/
#37
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Originally Posted by Lectron
These works. !
You breathe trough a steel grid that holds on to the moisture when you breathe out, and ads it to the air you breathe in.
You breathe trough a steel grid that holds on to the moisture when you breathe out, and ads it to the air you breathe in.
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#39
I ride in all temperatures that I encounter in Vermont (-27) is my personal record. I have the same issues: air too cold but can't handle restricted breathing. Also, I find that the systems discussed here quickly gewt wet and gross from your breath (man I just HATE having a wet scarf or face mask pushed against my lower face). what works for me is a scarfpulled up to my nose, but pulled outabout 2". Some of my body heat/moisture gets caught in the gap but doesn't restrict the breathing. Takes a little bit of fussingto get it just right though >
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The Heat Exchanger works well....too well
I went out around 5:15 this morning...Windchill of 27 degrees,the wind was decent.
The Exchanger heated up right away..... i had to drop it below my mouth and just deal with the cold for a minute.
from time to time i would breathe into it just to keep my neck warm.
I'm sold on it.
I went out around 5:15 this morning...Windchill of 27 degrees,the wind was decent.
The Exchanger heated up right away..... i had to drop it below my mouth and just deal with the cold for a minute.
from time to time i would breathe into it just to keep my neck warm.
I'm sold on it.
#41
Originally Posted by vrkelley
Hmmm. I have some light steel grid that's a little heavier than screen-mesh. I wonder I slipped a 3X3" disk into my current mask...
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#42
Originally Posted by MKRG
Jeez, I hope this doesn't make it back to the FG forum.
Anyhow, this is a big problem for me too. Once it hits 40F, going cold->warm induces fits of coughing. Wearing my neck gaitor (really a cut off stocking cap) over my mouth helps tremendously. It helps to capture some of the heat I exhale to warm the incoming air and also adds some moisture to the dry air. I'm fine when I'm out in the cold and I really prefer to have nothing over my mouth, but even more I prefer to be able to breathe and speak once I'm indoors.
#43
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Originally Posted by Murad
I get fogging on my glasses -- does the Sportsta mask help reduce or eliminate this by directing exhaled air?
Thanks.
#44
Originally Posted by Frodocious
A friend of mine recommends taking a bottle of warm to hot water and sipping from it regularly, I haven't used this method yet but she says it works very well for her.
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Originally Posted by thebulls
Heat exchanger facemask or balaklava is the best solution I've found. Balaklavas or scarfs get damp and icy, plus they really can't warm the air up much. A heat exchanger uses the warmth you just blew out to heat up the air you're sucking in. Usually, I get colds as soon as winter comes, from breathing hard in cold air, but last winter I rode with the heat exchanger and never got a cold. Check it out at:
https://www.psolar.com/
https://www.psolar.com/
There are a couple of other models as well. Someone on the Icebike list reviewed three different types last year.
~JamieN






