Need warmer pants
 

Hello, im looking for some help finding a pair of pants for cold weather cycling.
every pair i have found are wind proof in the front and not in the back. the bike shop i frequest pointed me twards a pair like this saying "they are good for 20 degrees and below anything above that they are to hot". on my first ride with them it was about 32 degrees out and i had never been so cold. my previous setup of a base layer leg and normal legwarmers and shorts over them was warmer.
So i need to find a pair that are FULLY windproof, be they cycling, skiiing , hiking, whatever so long as they do the job.

thanks

Hard to beat a pair of Performance Triflex tights:
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...400066__400066
or
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...400066__400066
over regular road shorts. They're insulated and windproof but not waterproof. I've done 75 miles in 36° and steady rain in a pair. I don't know how cold they'd go in the dry, but quite a bit colder. Of course it makes a difference how hard you ride, so someone else's temperature range may not be yours. You could also go with the chamois tights. I'd rather wear my regular road shorts with a good chamois and have double over my privates, but that's just me. For baselayer then I'd just wear leg warmers, nothing inside my chamois.

I dont belive either of those would be warm enough for me.
they both state that they are wind proof front and middle with a lighter back and legs to let heat out. i dont want to let any heat out, my legs get cold very easily and i need all i can get. im really looking for something that would be 100% windproof front and rear and insulated to some degree.
what i really need is a heated pair haha.

Cycling-specific rain pants should fit the bill surely? I use these http://www.vaude.com/en-GB/Products/...k-S-Short.html. Just wear layers beneath to get as warm as you want.

Get anything that's windproof and lightweight. Wear a layer underneath, add layers if needed. For layers, I prefer merino wool.

Layers are better than insulated pants, because you can adjust the layering to fit a wider range of temperatures.

--J

+1 to layers.

On cold rides I wear cycling shorts and thick knee-high wool socks, with tights over them, and then maybe sweatpants, another pair of tights, or windpants over top.

+2 on layers. Particularly things that are very easy to strip off after you've just warmed up a bit.

those look like they may do the trick, ill check out some other rain gear aswell.

+3 on layers.

My first choice would be some 3-layers waterproof-breathable hicking pants made of goretex or event which prevent water and wind from getting through and which is tight on heels in order not to get stucked and some heavy wool long johns baselayer.

+4 on layers.

Merino wool is a great baselayer. This is what I use, and it is great:

http://www.minus33.com/catalog/unise...bottoms/6100NC

Here are some heavyweight wool baselayers:

Filson Alaskan Long John Heavyweight Pants 21oz
http://www.filson.com/products/alask...taProduct=1011

Katmai Men's Expedition Bottom 400g/m2
http://www.minus33.com/catalog/katma...ion-bottom/709

Aclima Doublewool Unisex Longs (Here is what they say: "We claim that this is the warmest woollen underwear on the market")
http://www.aclima.no/products/doublewool/unisex-longs

Ibex ramble wool pant 360g/m2
http://shop.ibex.com/Apparel/Mens-Bo...mble-Wool-Pant

thanks guys, been a big help. think i have a rain pant picked out with good features and a reasonable pricetag. just need to decide on a base now.

What did you pick out in the end? I have to add a +5 to those layers by the way. I wear two layers topped off with light rain pants and that does the trick. I sometimes end up too warm on a cold day.

conventional snow pants might be worth considering. not snow board pants those are crazy heavy.

I use sugio or new balance tights. The winter ones have some fleece fuzz on the inside. Then I layer with some lightweight wind proof running pants.

I use Sport Hill XC pants. Designed as a cross-country ski pant. IMO, these are your premier winter cycling pant. I use these all winter. Once the regular daily temp drops below 42f I wear these without thermals or anything like that down to 20f. Anything lower, you'll have to add a second layer. They are totally windproof and coldproof. It's amazing how they perform in cold weather. I don't even feel it. They are not cheap, $120us. I found them online cheaper. I own two pair and I've had them for seven years, and I expect to get many more years out of them. Can't say enough good things about these pants. Their ski jackets make an excellent second layer under my Showers Pass that I use as my primary outer shell in winter. Thin, light and warm.

+100 on the Sporthill XC pants. I love them too. Agreed, down to 20F alone they are ridiculously good. Warm, windproof, breathable like no hardshell can come close to.

+6 on layers otherwise. For deep cold I also use windproof softshell pant with a wool underlayer, thin or thick depending on temp.

ALSO - anything under 40F and I add a pair of windproof briefs - (Craft) Totally key for keeping your man business warm.

polar fleece + the rain shell pants to block the wind, aka Layers.

Yea, it is. Pearl Izumi Amfib. Get 'em in bibs. I only wear them when the temperature is going to be no higher than 30F on the way home. They are much too hot otherwise.

Yes, Amfibs are very nice at $155. Performance Triflex are also warm at $60. I don't ride in the snow, but the Triflex are good for 36° and steady rain. I get the padless and wear shorts underneath.

+1 Sporthill. I don't miss wearing tights. Usually where Pearl Izumi liner with my Sporthill XC.

aren't running pants cut shorter than cycling pants?

So for the layering thing do people put a base layer under long bibs or do they put tights on over their bibs or do people even go bibs-baselayer-rain/snow pants?

Don't own any bibs. Tights with mt bike shorts over them. Wind pants over those if needed.

bibs or bike shorts are always next to your skin. any additional layers would be over that, whether it's tights, lycra or fleece or cycling pants or snow pants or rain pants, etc. consider your bibs or cycling shorts at underwear. that's always your 1st layer.