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Old 09-16-14, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
you can break your clavicle in a variety of ways. I suspect no one hits the pavement at 40 in a cross race and then gets run over by the rest of the field.
I just said "safer", none of this racing stuff is super safe, relative to 5ks or 10ks at the local Lion's Club.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
I think those with kids older than, say, 2 1/2 years old, will be like "yeah, whatever". It's like a Cat 5 describing their first sketchy corner in a crit to a bunch of Cat 3s or 2s or 1s or whatever. Still, though, this was my corner.

I helped with the club CX race on Saturday so I was less involved with Junior Friday (and even Thursday night) and not at all on Saturday until about 6:30 PM when I got back. At that point he wasn't feeling good, fever, etc. We have a forehead scanning thermometer which is great but sometimes the readings bounce a bit. I was a bit skeptical of the 105 degrees I kept getting.

By Saturday he was definitely still hot and in the evening, after he bounced up and down temp-wise, we gave him Tylenol. Since Junior won't take any medicine orally we don't take giving him medicine lightly. 6 PM he was 105.x, dropped to about 102, then 10 PM 105.2-105.3. Per the doctor's orders we went to the ER. 105.2 temp in the ER, taken "from the core" if you will.

Possible pneumonia based on chest x-rays, started antibiotics, etc. The nurse in the ER showed us a trick to get him to take medicine orally. We were a bit skeptical because Junior is so good at throwing up stuff he doesn't want. The nurse got the medicine down but then Junior threw it all up. I took over to give him the antibiotics (available only orally). We spent some time but it worked and he kept it down.

Monday was a wash, we spent most of the time cleaning stuff up after he got sick, or getting up to take care of him. Doc visit was the only trip out for Junior (and me). Today he seems much better, no fever, starting to laugh at things, engaged, etc. Doc told us to expect him to be much better by tonight but it seems he's ahead of schedule.

It takes me 25 min to give him 10 ml of antibiotics but he doesn't throw up. I guess in an ER that's not acceptable but here at home it's okay. Fortunately we have a little break in our schedule so nothing planned until Friday. At any rate it seems that he's good, but, man, what a long couple days.
It is scary. I'm glad he's on the mend. 105.3 is hot. That boy was stomping on that virus.
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I feel that I will be shamed and ostracized for saying this... but... here goes: I'm just really not into 'cross at all.
You've got plenty of company on this board. It's not a big deal.

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my buddy just broke his clavicle in the first cross race of the season.

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I just said "safer", none of this racing stuff is super safe, relative to 5ks or 10ks at the local Lion's Club.
Jeez dude, it's the backpedaling that's annoying about this. You put "safer" in scare quotes. Everyone knows what you meant.

And ugh, I'm so over the idea that bike racers are so much more badass than those pantywaist runners because they don't risk traumatic injury like we do. It just reeks of defensive machismo. It's endurance sports, people, it doesn't matter what it is because it is ALL unimportant and dorky.
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Jeez dude, it's the backpedaling that's annoying about this. You put "safer" in scare quotes. Everyone knows what you meant.

And ugh, I'm so over the idea that bike racers are so much more badass than those pantywaist runners because they don't risk traumatic injury like we do. It's just reeks of defensive machismo. It's endurance sports, people, it doesn't matter what it is because it is ALL unimportant and dorky.

wut?

You're annoyed because I used quotes? Running isn't safer that cycling in re: traumatic bone snappage? I don't know why you're annoyed. Who is being defensive to what?
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Fighting about cross already - yup, the offseason is here!

Here's a cross joke: How do you know someone races cross?

Because they suck on the road! ba dum tish
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It's good to see grolby is feeling better
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What annoyed me was Fudgy being Fudgy, nothing to do with cyclocross. It's no skin off my nose what anyone here thinks about 'cross, because if they like it, awesome, if they don't like it, well, they're not invested in it, so what?
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
I think those with kids older than, say, 2 1/2 years old, will be like "yeah, whatever". It's like a Cat 5 describing their first sketchy corner in a crit to a bunch of Cat 3s or 2s or 1s or whatever. Still, though, this was my corner.

I helped with the club CX race on Saturday so I was less involved with Junior Friday (and even Thursday night) and not at all on Saturday until about 6:30 PM when I got back. At that point he wasn't feeling good, fever, etc. We have a forehead scanning thermometer which is great but sometimes the readings bounce a bit. I was a bit skeptical of the 105 degrees I kept getting.

By Saturday he was definitely still hot and in the evening, after he bounced up and down temp-wise, we gave him Tylenol. Since Junior won't take any medicine orally we don't take giving him medicine lightly. 6 PM he was 105.x, dropped to about 102, then 10 PM 105.2-105.3. Per the doctor's orders we went to the ER. 105.2 temp in the ER, taken "from the core" if you will.

Possible pneumonia based on chest x-rays, started antibiotics, etc. The nurse in the ER showed us a trick to get him to take medicine orally. We were a bit skeptical because Junior is so good at throwing up stuff he doesn't want. The nurse got the medicine down but then Junior threw it all up. I took over to give him the antibiotics (available only orally). We spent some time but it worked and he kept it down.

Monday was a wash, we spent most of the time cleaning stuff up after he got sick, or getting up to take care of him. Doc visit was the only trip out for Junior (and me). Today he seems much better, no fever, starting to laugh at things, engaged, etc. Doc told us to expect him to be much better by tonight but it seems he's ahead of schedule.

It takes me 25 min to give him 10 ml of antibiotics but he doesn't throw up. I guess in an ER that's not acceptable but here at home it's okay. Fortunately we have a little break in our schedule so nothing planned until Friday. At any rate it seems that he's good, but, man, what a long couple days.
I'm glad Junior is recovering. I know those episodes can be a bit scary for a parent. Especially with a first child. My wife was worse than I was about that, but I still had a time or two that I got a bit worried.
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees
I feel that I will be shamed and ostracized for saying this... but... here goes: I'm just really not into 'cross at all.
Until I saw the helmet cam clip of the race the club put on I was 1000% "never cross". Now it's a slight chance. I watched my first cross race in something like 1987 and I was like, yeah, no way. I did mountain bike races, fine, but not cross. I think part of it was that there weren't that many smaller cross bikes and I'd need a really small cross bike. Ironically that's when I had literally dozens of tubular wheel sets, most of them too overbuilt for me, and it'd have been perfect for setting up all sorts of tire combos for different terrain/weather.

On the flip side cross seems more "road" than mountain bike, but I enjoyed racing mtb, at least around here at that time. I don't know but were overall skill levels and fitnesses were lower? I know I thought the intermediate races seemed more like Cat 4-5 races and I could be at the very point of a race in the intermediate category (I forget the name). With Expert it was different, they were all really fit/fast/strong Cat 2s and those riders just killed me. I rode with one and he opened my mind about big ringing some of the hills in the area, or not wasting time with picking a line with a creek crossing but just bunny hopping 90% of it and letting the tires/suspension deal with the rest. Etc. I think nowadays the technical bit would get me because I see teammates and stuff pictures on stuff that I'd have to climb off the bike to get through/over/down.
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@carpediemracing re kids. I hope Junior feels better soon, there's no anxiety quite like the anxiety of taking your kid to the ER! Of course, as per your opening sentence, I've done it probably 10 times, including stitches, seizures, abdominal pain, broken bones, you name it.

Last time (earlier this summer) was at 2am on Saturday night/Sunday morning, which is just the crappiest possible time to be in the ER. I was waiting with my son in my lap with his displaced tibia/fibula fracture, and cops kept bringing in guys who were tourniqueted and bleeding all over the place. The triage nurse correctly put all of them in front of us. Now that was a long night.

My favorite kid story, illustrating the difference between N=1 and N>1 kids, is when we visited some friends whose first girl was about 10 months old. Our twins (our 2nd & 3rd kids) were the same age. The first morning they set up their precious angel in her special chair, served her special breakfast in her special little serving set, just like a miniature Molly Ringwald in the Breakfast Club. Meanwhile we put a plate of eggs on the floor for our twins to scrabble over like puppies, because they liked eating that way.
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And re cross. It may look dumb, but believe me, it's harder than it looks. Races almost always start with a sprint, and you're basically pinned from start to finish.
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And re cross. It may look dumb, but believe me, it's harder than it looks. Races almost always start with a sprint, and you're basically pinned from start to finish.
A few months ago I got a cross bike but I'm not too psyched about racing cross. If I lived in the Northeast US it would probably be really awesome with the greenery, probably some mud and a chance of some snow on the ground. SoCal cross races are staged in places that resemble Tatooine, but hotter. If they did one up in Big Bear, I'd jump on it. More than likely I'll do at least one event, and see how it goes.

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What annoyed me was Fudgy being Fudgy, nothing to do with cyclocross. It's no skin off my nose what anyone here thinks about 'cross, because if they like it, awesome, if they don't like it, well, they're not invested in it, so what?
Different disciplines always poke fun at each other, its just in the nature of things.
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if cdr was able to apply even a tenth of his analytical skills to cross that he does to crit racing he could probably be damned good. from what i can tell after one race, you can make up an insane amount of time through skilled riding. yeah, it's possible to make up for some mistakes using your power, but it's hard.

fwiw, while racing cross is fun, what's even more fun is riding in the woods on a cross bike. there are some great trails in boston (right on my way to work, it's friggin perfect) and doing so is a great way to mix up the monotony of riding on the road.
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I just said "safer", none of this racing stuff is super safe, relative to 5ks or 10ks at the local Lion's Club.
#winterfudgy
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that's me…calm down.
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Originally Posted by mike868y
if cdr was able to apply even a tenth of his analytical skills to cross that he does to crit racing he could probably be damned good. from what i can tell after one race, you can make up an insane amount of time through skilled riding. yeah, it's possible to make up for some mistakes using your power, but it's hard.

fwiw, while racing cross is fun, what's even more fun is riding in the woods on a cross bike. there are some great trails in boston (right on my way to work, it's friggin perfect) and doing so is a great way to mix up the monotony of riding on the road.
So true. There's a couple of MTBers in the 45+ races that I can never touch even though I know I am a lot fitter. They just slice through technical sections and I can never make up the gap.
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my approach to cross is more like "smash into all the things" than "slice through technical sections."
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Originally Posted by grolby
What annoyed me was Fudgy being Fudgy, nothing to do with cyclocross. It's no skin off my nose what anyone here thinks about 'cross, because if they like it, awesome, if they don't like it, well, they're not invested in it, so what?
I said my friend broke his clavicle in cross and that cross is "safer."

ME BEING ME!

Actually, I think Grolby probably is an oversensitive short guy who thinks I was somehow denigrating something he likes? What's with short guys?!
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Originally Posted by mattm
Fighting about cross already - yup, the offseason is here!

Here's a cross joke: How do you know someone races cross?

Because they suck on the road! ba dum tish

Are you sure it's not the cycling cap and "doing base rides" instead of summer races!

I've had much caffeine today, if you all can't handle minimal teasing it is not my fault.
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Another way you can tell someone is in to cx?

They wear a tutu all the time, and ask for beer hand ups constantly.
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Another way you can tell someone is in to cx?

They wear a tutu all the time, and ask for beer hand ups constantly.
the times they are a'changing

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Another way you can tell someone is in to cx?

They wear a tutu all the time, and ask for beer hand ups constantly.
insist on wearing a vest through the 70s?
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Lol.

Giro respects all competitors and encourages spectators to reject heckling, beer spraying, and other inappropriate behaviors
Umm, did they even know what cross was before they decided to sponsor it??

I think heckling and beer spraying (wtf) are essential to cross. And tutus.
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