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Old 10-16-10, 01:21 PM
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Driver in fatal bicyclist crash comes forward

https://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_16353906
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Glad to see that the person who hit the cyclist is speaking with the police..at 11 pm it is highly likely that Alcohol and or drugs might have been involvled.....RIP Ric!
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I'm sure she will say she had no idea she had hit someone, so it will just be an "accident". No charges, no fine, no jail, no problem.
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You know, maybe it's just me, but if so many drivers are in fact "panicking" after a collision, wouldn't you think this is a sure-fire sign they are vastly under-trained?

Flying a plane is more complicated, and in many ways should be more dangerous. But strict training and regulation ensures it's actually much safer. While it happens, pilots are trained not to panic, and don't often.

Regardless, panicking at the time is not reason to not call when you get home, or to return to the scene.
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You know, maybe it's just me, but if so many drivers are in fact "panicking" after a collision, wouldn't you think this is a sure-fire sign they are vastly under-trained?

Flying a plane is more complicated, and in many ways should be more dangerous. But strict training and regulation ensures it's actually much safer. While it happens, pilots are trained not to panic, and don't often.

Regardless, panicking at the time is not reason to not call when you get home, or to return to the scene.
Hit and run is probably better than DUI especially if you voluntarily come forward.
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It sure smells like a DUI who sobered up and then came forward.
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Originally Posted by CritEastwood
It sure smells like a DUI who sobered up and then came forward.
They'll drop the hit and run charges since she came forward voluntarily and she won't face a DUI since they can't prove anything. She and her passenger will also claim the cyclist "swerved" and since there seem to be few witnesses, her story will be the official one..

She'll get off.

Another reason vulnerable road user laws are so vitally important.
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Maybe she thought she just hit a deer?
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Originally Posted by B. Carfree
I'm sure she will say she had no idea she had hit someone, so it will just be an "accident". No charges, no fine, no jail, no problem.
Or she will say that she never saw him when she probably did. But the police will accept that excuse and, not look to see if she would be lying.
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Originally Posted by CritEastwood
It sure smells like a DUI who sobered up and then came forward.

Yes sir....the smell is foul!
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Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine
Hit and run is probably better than DUI especially if you voluntarily come forward.


Hit and run OVI sobered up and got a conscious?
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Yup, I think it's probably a DUI, and the driver did exactly the right thing to get off. She'll get a minor traffic ticket, or none at all, and perhaps a few hours of community service. And in a few months she'll be behind the wheel drunk again.
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did you guys see the road he was riding on. Yikes, he was one brave fellow.
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Originally Posted by JPprivate
did you guys see the road he was riding on. Yikes, he was one brave fellow.



Regardless drivers need to be held responsible!
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Originally Posted by Crazyed..27
Regardless drivers need to be held responsible!
Yup, for some reason people see a curvy road with poor sightlines and think "road that cyclists shouldn't be on" rather than "road cars should drive 30 MPH or less on." Nobody pays any attention to leaving safe stopping distances, examining sight line distances, etc anymore.

People think that the speed limit should be however fast they can get their car up to and still keep the wheels pretty much on the road, and if they hit something it's not their fault, it shouldn't have been there on "such a dangerous road" in the first place.
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I would think the best they will charge her with is leaving the scene of an accident and failure to render aid.
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Originally Posted by Buddha4
I would think the best they will charge her with is leaving the scene of an accident and failure to render aid.
If that. They may drop those charges because it would send a message to people that it's better to not come forward, or some other malarkey.
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I lived in Las Cruces for fifteen years until relocating three years ago. Like many communities, its acceptance of cycling is hampered by class perceptions of cyclists. Several years ago a cyclist was killed in an early morning accident on Telshor Drive. Nothing was made of the accident since he was a seeming "indigent." I'm hopeful that more may be made of this incident insofar as the victim, although not "middle class", was clearly a "valued" member of the community with family. One can only be hopeful that at least a few eyes are opened by this tragedy.
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The cyclist is just as dead if hit by a reckless teenager than a distracted old fool. If the police continue to treat Motor Vehicle Homicide as a petty offense, drivers will never learn.

The local cycling community needs to take a page from the MADD playbook and hound the police, prosecutor, and courts with all the publicity they can generate.
The media WILL cover any demonstration with 30 or more participants. Use the internet, picket the police department and the prosecutor's office space. Pack the courtroom.
Talk to the press, the radio people, and the TV folks. Use political ACTION and EMOTION (show the family, distribute photos, humanize the deceased cyclist). It works.

If MADD could do it, cyclists can.

This should be done in every location, every time a cyclist is killed. Stop whinning on the internet and put a stop to leniency for these KILLERS. Call them what they are -- KILLER, not murderers but ordinary, garden variety careless, negligent, reckless KILLERS. And demand appropriate punishment for their HOMICIDE. This was not an "accident."

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