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I suspect that the OP might take the bait from some of the more aggressive A&S enforcers and seek some sort of extra curricular after action justice/education (harassment) either in person or more likely through social media. Why else did he seek personal information about the license plate owner from questionable sources?
I'm with you.
We have an unknown person (A) reporting an incident, for which we have no corroborating evidence, passing along a license plate number belonging to another unidentified individual (B) to another unknown individual (C) via the internet.
Even if person A does nothing with the acquired information, person B's information has been disseminated anonymously with the impression, rightly or wrongly, that they caused an accident with a bike rider. Person C now has the option of doing with this information anything he or she desires.
And a license plate number only identifies the owner of the automobile and not the driver. Could be a car of a family member or friend (possibly of the same age and gender making identification even more difficult).
Wasn't another frequent A&S poster banned for some duration for a similar disrespect of an individual's private information?
If you're in doubt about an incident with a driver- call the cops- if you accept $20 and ride off, fine to share the story of the incident on line but passing along their license number to someone seems decidedly uncool to me.
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The fact that she offered $20 means that she recognised that she had made a mistake and she is probably likely to be more careful in the future as a result of it. I think that is the best possible outcome. Too many similar accidents would have resulted in the driver thinking that the bike was to blame, per FBinNY's story.
I'm thinking it wouldn't have happened if the bike lane wasn't there. I'm thinking she was on a cell phone, completely oblivious, or underestimated my speed thinking she could cut me off in time.
I suspect that the OP might take the bait from some of the more aggressive A&S enforcers and seek some sort of extra curricular after action justice/education (harassment) either in person or more likely through social media. Why else did he seek personal information about the license plate owner from questionable sources?
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She didn't want to make a federal case of this, and you were willing. End of story.
If you've changed your mind about this, it's between you and the guy in the mirror. You can report the accident, and don't need help since you have a plate number, and model of car?, plus a physical description of the driver. However, as I said before, don't expect the police to drop everything and pursue a delayed report of an accident with no injuries, and only minor damage.
I'd let sleeping dogs lie, but what you do is entirely up to you.
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So unless the laws in the specific state were very restrictive, the OP would be within his rights in asking for the info, and the only question would be how it was gotten, ie. illegally using a police computer or favor.
Either way, it's the OPs issue, and between him and the man in the mirror how he handles it.
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And everybody else who has been informed by the OP of his issue and suspicions and desire to out imagined motorist transgressions
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While some may think it's their issue, I don't believe they have a dog in the fight. Only the OP knows the actual circumstances, and is in a legal position to report it. Everybody else (including you and I) are in the position of the crowd standing around watching a dog fight, and maybe placing side bets.
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While some may think it's their issue, I don't believe they have a dog in the fight. Only the OP knows the actual circumstances, and is in a legal position to report it. Everybody else (including you and I) are in the position of the crowd standing around watching a dog fight, and maybe placing side bets.
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While some may think it's their issue, I don't believe they have a dog in the fight. Only the OP knows the actual circumstances, and is in a legal position to report it. Everybody else (including you and I) are in the position of the crowd standing around watching a dog fight, and maybe placing side bets.
My issue has more to do with the sharing of the incident on an internet forum and exchanging license plate information with a third party. I believe it is in my interest as a regular BF user to voice my concerns lest this forum degenerate into an opportunity for cyclists to exact retribution, revenge or vigilante actions against motorists regarding incidents which may or may not be true, exact or warranted.
I was sympathetic to the OP and understood his ambivalence as to the best course of action, especially with regard to having accepted $20 in compensation from the motorist. But once the offer was made to look up her stats and accepted via a PM I became less sympathetic and more guarded. I get the sense that the OP is male and the fact that the driver was female makes it all the more unpalatable in my book.
I think I-Like-To-Bike's red flag was a good call.
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My issue has more to do with the sharing of the incident on an internet forum and exchanging license plate information with a third party. I believe it is in my interest as a regular BF user to voice my concerns lest this forum degenerate into an opportunity for cyclists to exact retribution, revenge or vigilante actions against motorists regarding incidents which may or may not be true, exact or warranted.
I was sympathetic to the OP and understood his ambivalence as to the best course of action, especially with regard to having accepted $20 in compensation from the motorist. But once the offer was made to look up her stats and accepted via a PM I became less sympathetic and more guarded. I get the sense that the OP is male and the fact that the driver was female makes it all the more unpalatable in my book.
I think I-Like-To-Bike's red flag was a good call.
As I said earlier auto registration disclosure laws vary by state. The issue here isn't whether the OP is entitled to the info (that depends on where he lives) but how he gets it, and how he uses it.
If his objective is to simply report the incident, he doesn't need the info, since the police have access to it from the plate number OTOH- if he decides go go knocking on somebody's door, even with good faith intentions, that opens a different can of worms relating to things like stalking.
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If it hasn't been mentioned yet, accepting $20 for the damage is the end of it. Even though it's not in writing, a deal's a deal. Since OP doesn't really have unfinished business with the driver, it's hard to justify his being entitled to further information about her even in states where the DL data is not privileged. It's also hard to see what he'd gain by it.
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