27 inch vs. 700c
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Usually a one person job with bike upside down. Put cog on chain, rest axle ends against dropout openings, spread triangle and wheel drops in. After a couple of years riding around with a 130 in there the rear triangle will slowly spread to that width. Only drawback compared to a pro coldset is dropout parallelism my be slightly lacking.
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The hardware on the bike is original as far as I can tell. I haven't seen the bike yet, its two hours away and I'm supposed to see it this weekend. I'm researching, trying to figure out if this will even work. Here is a catalog link with all the specs & component list:
https://www.vintage-trek.com/images/trek/85TrekSport.pdf
Brakes are Diacomp Q500N. In the photos I've got, it looks like the rear pads are as far down on the calipers as possible. If I do go, I'm planning on taking some 700c rims with me.
Does anyone know when Trek switched over to 700c on their steel frame bikes? My goal is to find a nice vintage steel frame trek for her. Ones I've found in my area so far either are the wrong size, junk or seller is asking more than I'm willing to pay. This specific one is the correct size, is in good shape and is within what I'm looking to spend.
https://www.vintage-trek.com/images/trek/85TrekSport.pdf
Brakes are Diacomp Q500N. In the photos I've got, it looks like the rear pads are as far down on the calipers as possible. If I do go, I'm planning on taking some 700c rims with me.
Does anyone know when Trek switched over to 700c on their steel frame bikes? My goal is to find a nice vintage steel frame trek for her. Ones I've found in my area so far either are the wrong size, junk or seller is asking more than I'm willing to pay. This specific one is the correct size, is in good shape and is within what I'm looking to spend.
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Usually a one person job with bike upside down. Put cog on chain, rest axle ends against dropout openings, spread triangle and wheel drops in. After a couple of years riding around with a 130 in there the rear triangle will slowly spread to that width. Only drawback compared to a pro coldset is dropout parallelism my be slightly lacking.
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Why not just buy a bare 700c frame and build it up. It doesn't sound like a bike with old parts is part of your vision anyway. I'd go with one of the many, many British or Italian steel frames from the 80s or 90s, but I'm not someone who places any special cachet on the brand Trek. If you open your market to bare frames, shipping is very easy and realatively cheap, opening up ebay for you. Unless it's that vintage of Trek that is what's interesting.
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Why not just buy a bare 700c frame and build it up. It doesn't sound like a bike with old parts is part of your vision anyway. I'd go with one of the many, many British or Italian steel frames from the 80s or 90s, but I'm not someone who places any special cachet on the brand Trek. If you open your market to bare frames, shipping is very easy and realatively cheap, opening up ebay for you. Unless it's that vintage of Trek that is what's interesting.
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There are some decent 27" wheels and tires out there....(not as many as 700c by a long shot), but some decent rolling stock that looks good too at very affordable pricing. I recently did a conversion on a fat-tire, full fender, cruiser bike from 26" TO 27"....it's a long story; but was based mostly on available parts and low dollars. The bike now rides on 27x1 Weinmann LP18s (with sealed bearings), wearing Continental Ultra Sports in 27x1-1/4. Smooth, and pretty fast set that was $179. for wheels with skewers, tires ,tubes, & rimstrips. See [url=https://www.bicyclewheels.com]Bicyclewheels.com that's where my 27's came from. The brakes are a pair of Ebay sourced Cane Creek SCR-3L fronts. Unless you have a specific 700c set in mind, there are some impressive 27 wheelsets available.
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Done it a number of times, easy conversion. Treks are nice, all common threading and sizes. I did have to file the slots on one to run the 6600 Ultegra DP brakes. I never had to set the frame either to run a 130mm hub. I have drilled out the brake bridge and fork for recessed brakes. These were mid-late '80's early '90's 6 - 7 speed originals.
Might also look at this for stop and run w/inline adjusters.
https://www.amazon.com/ORIGIN8-Alloy-.../dp/B004FSVVN8
Might also look at this for stop and run w/inline adjusters.
https://www.amazon.com/ORIGIN8-Alloy-.../dp/B004FSVVN8
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Picked up the bike Saturday. Near mint save some scrapes but damn nice given the age. The freewheel is a bit sticky and doesn't spin free, but not too concerned about that. Surprisingly my wife loves it as even though she doesn't normally like DT. The only down tube she's ridden are indexed shifters, so I'm not sure how well she'll like the friction. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it though. She is open to modernizing is but wants to keep the vintage look.
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I have done this conversion on two bikes without cold setting. The frames I had simply have enough give with a light flexing to slip the wheel right in. That was on a very old Cannondale and a Bob Jackson.
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Very nice looking ride. I'd just tune it and ride it as is for a while and maybe put on bar end shifters...
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Another possible area for concern. Since I'm going to be switching to brifters, cable stops will be needed. This bike is older than others I've converted using brifters and uses a bracket instead of braize on shifter mounts. I found this on vintage-trek.com. Could this be a game changer?
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A caution - some downtube clamp-on shifter bosses made for friction shifting, that may be on your lower to mid-level Trek bike, are not compatible with standard shifters that fit on brazed-on bosses. Downtube cable stops also will not fit on these nonstandard types of clamp-on bosses.
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A caution - some downtube clamp-on shifter bosses made for friction shifting, that may be on your lower to mid-level Trek bike, are not compatible with standard shifters that fit on brazed-on bosses. Downtube cable stops also will not fit on these nonstandard types of clamp-on bosses.
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I've sourced the parts I need to update the bike. Just need to see if my wife can deal with the DT frictions shifters. We'll see where we go from there. It stays as is until then
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I wouldn't change the wheel size if I were in your shoes. I have a 1971 Raleigh Super Course with 27" wheels. It wears Panaracer Pasela tires, which I like a lot. I have changed a lot on the bike, but I'm fine with the wheel diameter as it is.
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Quick and dirty sticky freewheel fix: turn the wheel on its side and dribble chain lube through the end of the freewheel (between where the spinning and stationary parts pass each other) while spinnging the freewheel.
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Even cheaper are stem-mounted shifters, and they can be very convenient, depending on your riding position.
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What happens to the bike next is going to be decided by my wife, probably in the spring. Mean time I've got plenty of other bikes to upgrade & overhaul.
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This was my primary concern when thinking of going for 27" to 700c. Many seem to trivialize the bending of steel frames. I just was never really sold on the idea.
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Picked up the bike Saturday. Near mint save some scrapes but damn nice given the age. The freewheel is a bit sticky and doesn't spin free, but not too concerned about that. Surprisingly my wife loves it as even though she doesn't normally like DT. The only down tube she's ridden are indexed shifters, so I'm not sure how well she'll like the friction. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it though. She is open to modernizing is but wants to keep the vintage look.
Mine came in worse condition, and the wheels were kinda shot, so I put some decent 700c wheels on it that showed up at the co-op.
It works fine, pretty much as is, but it's very flat here, so most of my shifting involves wind or climbing very short ups onto the levee.
IIRC, the brakes it came with had adequate reach for the 700c wheels. I don't recall changing them.
The whole brifter thing, IMO, is better done by just buying a used bike that already has them. They've been around so long that the local CL here always has some of them at bargain prices. But your wife would have to expand her definitions of what's acceptable. This can be a major hurdle.