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You need to pack a spare collar bone, there, Master Chief.
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Originally Posted by crank_addict
oooh, that one is going to climb! You mentioned barends. If mine, would move the controls and grips in, hack a little off the ends and install drop bar ends like these:
Do the bars appear too wide? Again, not very conversant on the MTB nuances, but I do know I'll need some bar ends with a little more length - just maybe not that much length?

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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
You need to pack a spare collar bone, there, Master Chief.
Because of my propensity to almost-bail pretty much every inch of the way on my first MTB ride? Probably so

But like Scott says, he's gotta be careful about going out on the MTB so soon after his shoulder surgery because even he drops it here and there when out in the dirt. Seems like it's just par for the course. Who knows, I might very well take my helmet along for the off-road rides

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Do the bars appear too wide? Again, not very conversant on the MTB nuances, but I do know I'll need some bar ends with a little more length - just maybe not that much length?

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Not to me.

I like wide bars on all of my mtbs.

Better balance/control on rocks, trails, sand, mud etc.

Better breathing as well, at least for me.
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Looks like a fun bike.
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Originally Posted by gomango
Better breathing as well, at least for me.
This.

Scott says, however, to be careful in selecting them so I don't end up with little horns on the end of my bars getting caught by bushes and the like on narrow trails. Something to think about, but maybe I could jury-rig some sort of guards similar to those used on motocross bikes?

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Originally Posted by jyl
Oooo. Do those grips say . . . No, I'll wait.
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I know exactly what the grips say.
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I thought the proper word was Sasquatch, in your neck of the woods......

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I was looking around for more pics, but nothing with any more detail. Sorry - and not trying to tease, but I won't get the bike until 3 October when I head on over to Ellensburg for the Manastash Metric Century.

That's 'cause scozim is passing along to me his 1996 Klein Pulse II. Yeti repainted it for the first owner about a year after that guy bought it. Apparently it was once wore that flo-orange and the color was too bright. Scott got it around 2009 and the guy hadn't ridden it for nearly 10 years. A couple of summers ago I got the opportunity to ride it up in the hills above Ellensburg and once I got the seatpost height sorted I had a great day out on it. Nice to be somewhat familiar with it.

I'd been in cahoots with RaleighSport recently, trying to find a semi-vintage hardtail and he'd been checking out CL for me, giving me ideas on bikes/components/prices to be looking for. I figured it would take some time to find my exact match in an MTB. Then, out of the blue Scott contacted me the other day offering this for sale. What could I say? The price is right, there's little to do to the bike other than personalize it a smidgen and again - I'm already familiar with it. Score

I will be adding a second wheelset with slicks for the road and looking for a backup pair of knobbies, too. I'll also need a pair of bar ends. But that's pretty much it. I foresee a lot of riding my local FS roads and such this winter. I plan on attaching a seatpost-mount rear rack for my trusty trunk bag - might do an overnight in the wilderness with this as my conveyance here and there over the next few months. All I know for sure is that I don't want to stop riding over the winter when the weather turns to crap and this will ensure I still get out and about. Really looking forward to exploring this facet of the cycling experience!!

As soon as I can I'll post pics and specs.

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Because of my propensity to almost-bail pretty much every inch of the way on my first MTB ride? Probably so

Who knows, I might very well take my helmet along for the off-road rides

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And a cup. Don't ask me how I know this.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
All true. One word was "f**K", yelled REALLY LOUDLY as I suddenly hit a large section of rocky trail at the bottom of the big descent of the day. The rocks were completely hidden by a bunch of weeds/grass growing all through them - to this day I have absolutely no idea how I didn't crash and burn that day

Later on that day I almost washed the front end out two or three times going into the corners on the descent. I'd say it took me about half the day to figure out what kind of gearing I needed at any given moment - the funniest bit was probably right at the start of the day, watching me trying to climb out of the saddle in the lowermost gears and spinning the rear wheel helplessly. That was quite the day full of new learning experiences!

I stole a couple pics from Scott's FB page:

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But, I also issued a warning at the top of the hill "at the bottom there's a section of shale rock, get up off the saddle and let the bike bounce through it". Problem is you're going way too fast if you don't know it's there - thus the pucker factor.

Probably didn't help that I had a little extra air in the tires for him. Makes for "fun" on gravel corners on a descent
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Hot damn!

Mountain bikes are so much fun.

Random tips:
- Run much lower tire pressures than your roadie instincts say. 40 psi or so.
- To avoid washing out the front tire in loose soil, shift your weight back.
- To avoid losing traction in climbs, climb seated and spin.
- To avoid going over the bars on a steep descent, shift your weight waay back, hang your butt behind the saddle even.
- Hop obstacles when you can, go all soft-legs and soft-arms if you can't avoid hitting the obstacle
- When, not if, you fall - tuck and roll.
- Getting off and walking is no shame. Especially when about to descend what looks like a staircase of boulders. Don't know about the rest of you, but I don't bounce as well as I did 20 years ago.
- Carry plenty of water. No refill opportunities in the woods.

You're going to have lots of fun. Maybe next summer we should do a C&V MTB ride?
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
And a cup. Don't ask me how I know this.
I might just pack one of those, too - and I'm afraid I don't need to ask

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Originally Posted by scozim
But, I also issued a warning at the top of the hill "at the bottom there's a section of shale rock, get up off the saddle and let the bike bounce through it". Problem is you're going way too fast if you don't know it's there - thus the pucker factor.

Probably didn't help that I had a little extra air in the tires for him. Makes for "fun" on gravel corners on a descent
I either forgot or just didn't expect the shale at the point it showed up! And personally, I appreciated the extra air - especially while going up. I was still smoking then so the ascents were always going to be difficult...

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Originally Posted by jyl
Hot damn!

Mountain bikes are so much fun.

Random tips:
- Run much lower tire pressures than your roadie instincts say. 40 psi or so.
- To avoid washing out the front tire in loose soil, shift your weight back.
- To avoid losing traction in climbs, climb seated and spin.
- To avoid going over the bars on a steep descent, shift your weight waay back, hang your butt behind the saddle even.
- Hop obstacles when you can, go all soft-legs and soft-arms if you can't avoid hitting the obstacle
- When, not if, you fall - tuck and roll.
- Getting off and walking is no shame. Especially when about to descend what looks like a staircase of boulders. Don't know about the rest of you, but I don't bounce as well as I did 20 years ago.
- Carry plenty of water. No refill opportunities in the woods.

You're going to have lots of fun. Maybe next summer we should do a C&V MTB ride?
We should - I'd be up for that

All great advice - and it dovetails with Scott's "rules", too - right down to the proper inflation numbers.

You know, the things I like best about this bike are that I don't have the added complication of a rear suspension and it's made of aluminum by a guy who was one of the pioneers of its application as a bike frame material. It's got a suspension fork I can adjust and everything else seems to be top of or nearest the top of the line for the time. And, of course, it's sorta vintage - and I know it works reliably and smoothly from my own experience. I'm really looking forward to taking delivery in a couple weeks!

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I'm off to Wenatchee about a speeding ticket here in a few, but I figured I'd post a couple pics from yesterday afternoon's short 10 mile adjustment ride. I picked up the bike on Saturday while in Ellensburg doing the Manastash Metric with scozim. Got home Saturday night and put one of my two remaining Flite saddles on the post, then pulled it completely out. No problem - but, wow, that post is almost 3 feet long, I swear!

Sunday afternoon I pumped up the tires to 60 psi and hit the Centennial Trail, utilizing the off-road horse trail on the outward leg for as much of the distance as I could. Here are a couple pics:





I still have to play with my position a little - may even go back to the original longer stem, but I don't know yet. I need to get this on a fire road pronto. Oh, and I got ahold of RaleighSport (he of the super-cool BOC decals) and we're working on a project decal set for this. It won't be badged a Klein, but rather something I came up with last week.

This is going to be fun

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A beaut. What size is that Yeti, @Drillium Dude?
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Thats a wheelie rider~ for us old kids

If you want to see the grandkids faces light-up (he-he...), show them a wheelie and then a stoppie.

For starters, use platform pedals. Pick a happy medium to lowerish gear, put some leg into it and then pull up on the bars, a finger on the rear brake lever as a drag. Go to the point of feeling you're going over backwards and then feather the rear brake. By braking, the momentum will transfer the balance to forward and down.

Stoppies are a little crazier than a wheelie and demand some confidence. Its all a matter of feel and firm front brake modulation.
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
A beaut. What size is that Yeti, @Drillium Dude?
Yeti only made the grips - the bike is actually a Klein Pulse II from 1996. Scott tells me it's one of the last ones made here in Chehalis, Washington. Nice to have yet another locally-built bike

I believe the size would work out to be a Large. That's the sizing for MTBs, right?

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Originally Posted by crank_addict
Thats a wheelie rider~ for us old kids

If you want to see the grandkids faces light-up (he-he...), show them a wheelie and then a stoppie.

For starters, use platform pedals. Pick a happy medium to lowerish gear, put some leg into it and then pull up on the bars, a finger on the rear brake lever as a drag. Go to the point of feeling you're going over backwards and then feather the rear brake. By braking, the momentum will transfer the balance to forward and down.

Stoppies are a little crazier than a wheelie and demand some confidence. Its all a matter of feel and firm front brake modulation.
Heh heh - I don't know about all that just yet! I want to get up and down a couple of local fire roads without munching it too badly to start. I might try some tricks after I gain a little confidence on this. Scott knows: I almost died on this thing once!

Platforms are next on the list, however. Looking for a good pair on Ebay right now. It's not like I can use Campy Superleggeris with toeclips and straps on this, right?

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Here are some more pics:

















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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Because of my propensity to almost-bail pretty much every inch of the way on my first MTB ride? Probably so

But like Scott says, he's gotta be careful about going out on the MTB so soon after his shoulder surgery because even he drops it here and there when out in the dirt. Seems like it's just par for the course. Who knows, I might very well take my helmet along for the off-road rides

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Dude....wear your helmet. It only takes once to pay off. And besides I may need more work from you.
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Dude....wear your helmet. It only takes once to pay off. And besides I may need more work from you.
I know, I know - and sometimes I even remember to do so

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Groovy!!!

Love the color.

What tires are you using?
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Looks like an absolute blast.
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No drillium love yet for the new ride? Haha. Nice Klein but toss a helmet on because trees don't get outta the way very fast.
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