Beginning my first C&V build, Thanks to Drillium Dude.
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The Superlegerra pedals finally arrived, not too bad a shape, I cleaned off some tar from one of them, not but a touch, and I had to reshape the quill tip of the same item. I put it in a vice, and gently pulled it back to shape, turned out fine. I am skipping the silver solder reshaping and electro-plating steps (black cages, anyhow) forgive me realsteel, please.
Dumbass move of the build was this afternoon, I was taking the pedals down and cleaning them up, re-greasing everything, when I was reassembling the first one, I managed to let a single loose ball bearing fall away. No luck what so ever on finding it. Swept the floor with a magnet, moved everything out, checked my shoe soles and generally looked myself into a strong need to go riding, and let things in my empty skull cool off. A 5 size selection of loose ball bearings is due here on Friday, 100 5/32" balls are mine, mine, all mine...... (along with 4 other sizes /100 also.) Just when you need a 5/32" ball bearing you cannot find one, any other time I would be stepping all over them. I have a safe set up now, for doing the reassembly work, anything I drop will be contained, I really, really hope. Other pedal is just fine, now.
BTW, no pictures of my dismay, or the pedals either, not really wanting to document being careless.
Bill
Dumbass move of the build was this afternoon, I was taking the pedals down and cleaning them up, re-greasing everything, when I was reassembling the first one, I managed to let a single loose ball bearing fall away. No luck what so ever on finding it. Swept the floor with a magnet, moved everything out, checked my shoe soles and generally looked myself into a strong need to go riding, and let things in my empty skull cool off. A 5 size selection of loose ball bearings is due here on Friday, 100 5/32" balls are mine, mine, all mine...... (along with 4 other sizes /100 also.) Just when you need a 5/32" ball bearing you cannot find one, any other time I would be stepping all over them. I have a safe set up now, for doing the reassembly work, anything I drop will be contained, I really, really hope. Other pedal is just fine, now.
BTW, no pictures of my dismay, or the pedals either, not really wanting to document being careless.
Bill
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05-04-16, 08:34 PM
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I've been a charter member
, Jim, trust me. If I get by with just a single lost ball bearing, I am way ahead of my normal routine
. I should have been properly set up to work on a loose bearing configuration, I knew good and well these were that type of bearings. I also should have had a bearing assortment on hand, too. Loose ball arrangements, cup and cone with caged bearings, etc. aren't unknown to me, so rushing into the work was just a purely bone headed move on my part
.
I am getting close to having the mechanical work done, then its some cosmetic items, like a little paint touch up, bar tape and some small detail items to keep the inner OCD at bay, (errrr, CDO, got to have the letters in the correct order you know.) Wanting to return to the classic riding has gotten me off my line a bit, and I rushed things, it is time to step back and regroup. Bearings have already been shipped, Amazon had these in their Prime program, so the guaranteed 2-day shipping was free, a total of $10 and some change was all it needed.
Back a few years, when we were racing motocross, still, these bearings would have been in my spares boxes, they are gone to others that got in a fix and needed them. And, with so many modern bikes being almost 100% sealed, or cartridge bearings, I have to get used to some old things I used to do, that went away
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We called this a head-check, in the military, and I certainly needed one.
Bill
, Jim, trust me. If I get by with just a single lost ball bearing, I am way ahead of my normal routine. I should have been properly set up to work on a loose bearing configuration, I knew good and well these were that type of bearings. I also should have had a bearing assortment on hand, too. Loose ball arrangements, cup and cone with caged bearings, etc. aren't unknown to me, so rushing into the work was just a purely bone headed move on my part. I am getting close to having the mechanical work done, then its some cosmetic items, like a little paint touch up, bar tape and some small detail items to keep the inner OCD at bay, (errrr, CDO, got to have the letters in the correct order you know.) Wanting to return to the classic riding has gotten me off my line a bit, and I rushed things, it is time to step back and regroup. Bearings have already been shipped
, Amazon had these in their Prime program, so the guaranteed 2-day shipping was free, a total of $10 and some change was all it needed. Back a few years, when we were racing motocross, still, these bearings would have been in my spares boxes, they are gone to others that got in a fix and needed them. And, with so many modern bikes being almost 100% sealed, or cartridge bearings, I have to get used to some old things I used to do, that went away
.We called this a head-check, in the military, and I certainly needed one.
Bill
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05-05-16, 08:03 AM
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I've been a charter member, Jim, trust me. If I get by with just a single lost ball bearing, I am way ahead of my normal routine. I should have been properly set up to work on a loose bearing configuration, I knew good and well these were that type of bearings. I also should have had a bearing assortment on hand, too. Loose ball arrangements, cup and cone with caged bearings, etc. aren't unknown to me, so rushing into the work was just a purely bone headed move on my part.
I am getting close to having the mechanical work done, then its some cosmetic items, like a little paint touch up, bar tape and some small detail items to keep the inner OCD at bay, (errrr, CDO, got to have the letters in the correct order you know.) Wanting to return to the classic riding has gotten me off my line a bit, and I rushed things, it is time to step back and regroup. Bearings have already been shipped, Amazon had these in their Prime program, so the guaranteed 2-day shipping was free, a total of $10 and some change was all it needed.
Back a few years, when we were racing motocross, still, these bearings would have been in my spares boxes, they are gone to others that got in a fix and needed them. And, with so many modern bikes being almost 100% sealed, or cartridge bearings, I have to get used to some old things I used to do, that went away.
We called this a head-check, in the military, and I certainly needed one.
Bill
, Jim, trust me. If I get by with just a single lost ball bearing, I am way ahead of my normal routine. I should have been properly set up to work on a loose bearing configuration, I knew good and well these were that type of bearings. I also should have had a bearing assortment on hand, too. Loose ball arrangements, cup and cone with caged bearings, etc. aren't unknown to me, so rushing into the work was just a purely bone headed move on my part. I am getting close to having the mechanical work done, then its some cosmetic items, like a little paint touch up, bar tape and some small detail items to keep the inner OCD at bay, (errrr, CDO, got to have the letters in the correct order you know.) Wanting to return to the classic riding has gotten me off my line a bit, and I rushed things, it is time to step back and regroup. Bearings have already been shipped
, Amazon had these in their Prime program, so the guaranteed 2-day shipping was free, a total of $10 and some change was all it needed. Back a few years, when we were racing motocross, still, these bearings would have been in my spares boxes, they are gone to others that got in a fix and needed them. And, with so many modern bikes being almost 100% sealed, or cartridge bearings, I have to get used to some old things I used to do, that went away
.We called this a head-check, in the military, and I certainly needed one.
Bill
05-05-16, 04:06 PM
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The Superlegerra pedals finally arrived, not too bad a shape, I cleaned off some tar from one of them, not but a touch, and I had to reshape the quill tip of the same item. I put it in a vice, and gently pulled it back to shape, turned out fine. I am skipping the silver solder reshaping and electro-plating steps (black cages, anyhow) forgive me realsteel, please.
Dumbass move of the build was this afternoon, I was taking the pedals down and cleaning them up, re-greasing everything, when I was reassembling the first one, I managed to let a single loose ball bearing fall away. No luck what so ever on finding it. Swept the floor with a magnet, moved everything out, checked my shoe soles and generally looked myself into a strong need to go riding, and let things in my empty skull cool off. A 5 size selection of loose ball bearings is due here on Friday, 100 5/32" balls are mine, mine, all mine...... (along with 4 other sizes /100 also.) Just when you need a 5/32" ball bearing you cannot find one, any other time I would be stepping all over them. I have a safe set up now, for doing the reassembly work, anything I drop will be contained, I really, really hope. Other pedal is just fine, now.
BTW, no pictures of my dismay, or the pedals either, not really wanting to document being careless.
Bill
Dumbass move of the build was this afternoon, I was taking the pedals down and cleaning them up, re-greasing everything, when I was reassembling the first one, I managed to let a single loose ball bearing fall away. No luck what so ever on finding it. Swept the floor with a magnet, moved everything out, checked my shoe soles and generally looked myself into a strong need to go riding, and let things in my empty skull cool off. A 5 size selection of loose ball bearings is due here on Friday, 100 5/32" balls are mine, mine, all mine...... (along with 4 other sizes /100 also.) Just when you need a 5/32" ball bearing you cannot find one, any other time I would be stepping all over them. I have a safe set up now, for doing the reassembly work, anything I drop will be contained, I really, really hope. Other pedal is just fine, now.
BTW, no pictures of my dismay, or the pedals either, not really wanting to document being careless.
Bill
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05-05-16, 05:27 PM
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I have had my share of bearing losses and always have or order more than I need.
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I just have Campy spares to pass along which will surely play well with the others Bill's already got
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Well, I already got suitable bearings from our LBS, this morning. The LBS owner, Tom, assured me he uses them with no problems, and he is a serious Campag guy.(He is the person that chased the bottom bracket shell's threads for me, and he has both a complete Campag tool set, in the oak box, and a complete 50th Anniversary Super Record groupset, all in the original boxes. He is an old school mechanic, and super on the new stuff as well. Good people.)
I'll look at them after some rides on the Medici and if needed I will use the bearings DD has offered me. It was a single bearing, so I am not real concerned at this point. The bulk bearings are ISO certified, so these might be fine, for a while. DD is right about being careful with using the bulk balls though. I believe the Campagnolo standard for their bearings was 1/10,000 inch. But the standards now are extremely strict, from what I have read in a professional Quality Engineering journal I receive. It will be living on the ragged edge, I suppose.
I do plan to eventually get a set of the Cinelli bars, wider than the 3ttt I have on now, and also find Christophe toe clips and correct straps Medici used in 1978. Paint touch up, the MAVIC stickers for the rims (on order already,) and odds and ends are going to be done when possible, but I am just ready to ride this bike.
Pictures of the completed bicycle tomorrow evening, following a shakedown ride(s) in the afternoon.
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I'll look at them after some rides on the Medici and if needed I will use the bearings DD has offered me. It was a single bearing, so I am not real concerned at this point. The bulk bearings are ISO certified, so these might be fine, for a while. DD is right about being careful with using the bulk balls though. I believe the Campagnolo standard for their bearings was 1/10,000 inch. But the standards now are extremely strict, from what I have read in a professional Quality Engineering journal I receive. It will be living on the ragged edge, I suppose.
I do plan to eventually get a set of the Cinelli bars, wider than the 3ttt I have on now, and also find Christophe toe clips and correct straps Medici used in 1978. Paint touch up, the MAVIC stickers for the rims (on order already,) and odds and ends are going to be done when possible, but I am just ready to ride this bike.
Pictures of the completed bicycle tomorrow evening, following a shakedown ride(s) in the afternoon.
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Here are the first pictures of the Medici, no touch-up painting yet, I am attempting tho do that this weekend.
Generic shots against my work truck:
Obligatory white garage door shots:
For a first attempt at building a C&V bike, I feel pretty good about how this has turned out, so far.
Thanks to everyone that has helped me out with this project, including those that just made kind,constructive comments, gave me advice, and generally supported my undertaking the build.
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Generic shots against my work truck:
Obligatory white garage door shots:
For a first attempt at building a C&V bike, I feel pretty good about how this has turned out, so far.
Thanks to everyone that has helped me out with this project, including those that just made kind,constructive comments, gave me advice, and generally supported my undertaking the build.
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Great choice of colors for the bar tape, hoods and cable. I have not seen that combo before and looks awesome. We need bigger pics, fill the frame man!
05-06-16, 08:18 PM
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It was nice after a ride to come home and see the test-ride/pics post. Too bad I'm looking at the pics on my mobile
Looking forward to seeing big pics tomorrow!
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Looking forward to seeing big pics tomorrow!
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007, I got a sample of yellow cable housing from DD when he sent the frame to me, so I could get the correct diameter housing to fit through the guides on the top tube. these are smaller than usual, a Confente anomaly as I understand. The yellow goes with the color of the logo letters pretty well, IMHO. White bar tape is just a personal preference from my younger days, always felt faster when fresh, bright white tape was wrapped on the bars
. I was determined to wrap the tape correctly and keep the spacing even and the tape taught. It took an episode of the Andy Griffith Show, and most of Big Bang Theory, to get it right last night. Yellow tape might look pretty good, also.
Gum re-pop hoods were the same reasoning, personal choice/preference. Some nice white hoods came with the Victory levers, but I don't particularly care for their feel, never have, either. Eventually, the Victory levers will get replaced by the correct Super Record, to match the calipers. Actually, according to the catalog scans I have managed to find on-line, gum or black is what got offered by Medici, if anybody knows differently, please let me know here for my own edification.
DD, some better, frame filling pictures are hopefully coming tomorrow, after the commissioning ride. I am working on making better pics, and on mastering the large pictures here. I know the drill, just need to take time and get it down pat.
. I was determined to wrap the tape correctly and keep the spacing even and the tape taught. It took an episode of the Andy Griffith Show, and most of Big Bang Theory, to get it right last night. Yellow tape might look pretty good, also. Gum re-pop hoods were the same reasoning, personal choice/preference. Some nice white hoods came with the Victory levers, but I don't particularly care for their feel, never have, either. Eventually, the Victory levers will get replaced by the correct Super Record, to match the calipers. Actually, according to the catalog scans I have managed to find on-line, gum or black is what got offered by Medici, if anybody knows differently, please let me know here for my own edification.
DD, some better, frame filling pictures are hopefully coming tomorrow, after the commissioning ride. I am working on making better pics, and on mastering the large pictures here. I know the drill, just need to take time and get it down pat.
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I like the match of cabling and decals. What really grabs my attention is the campy crankset and RD. But then, I may be a little biased. Looking good. Nothing on earth for the cyclist can match vintage Italian.
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Finally got to peep these pics in a larger format today. I like! Looks like you scored well on the other parts and I tell ya, that Turbo is a good-looking saddle; it definitely works here. If that's kind to your posterior, I'd simply stay with it vice finding a Concor.
I see you fitted a real-world set of gears. What's your largest cog out back? If it's a 28t or above, can you review how it shifts? I'm looking for a 28t max 5-speed FW for Cino and am trying to decide whether or not I can get 'er done with an NR or SR RD and a 28t max cog.
Are you going to shellac the tape, or leave it as-is?
A fine build, Bill. I hope you find the matching shade for the touch-ups - that will be the icing on the cake!
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I see you fitted a real-world set of gears. What's your largest cog out back? If it's a 28t or above, can you review how it shifts? I'm looking for a 28t max 5-speed FW for Cino and am trying to decide whether or not I can get 'er done with an NR or SR RD and a 28t max cog.
Are you going to shellac the tape, or leave it as-is?
A fine build, Bill. I hope you find the matching shade for the touch-ups - that will be the icing on the cake!
DD
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I finally got her out on the road this afternoon, for the shakedown cruise. I ran through the gears, front rings and rear cogs, no issues what so ever with the shifting. I actually had no problems with reaching down to the shifters, that was a relief for me. DD, the large cog on back is a 26, smallest is a 14, the crankset is a 52/41, the chain is a SRAM 830 from our LBS, until I can get a Regina Extra, or an Oro, if possible. No problems at all with any cog, or either chain ring. In our area, a coastal plain, rollers are all we have, no big climbs, a 28 would be extra, but not required, although my CAAD 10 has a 28 on its 6800 Ultegra group.
The brakes were fine, I did need to rotate the bars upwards just a few degrees, so as to better suit my on the hoods positioning, this got done when I got back home.
No issues with the tubulars except adjusting the placement of the tires somewhat from where they set after gluing them on. Not exactly down the middle, so I adjusted both to straighten them up, and while I was at it, I fine tuned the wheel truing. I did decide to drop the tire pressure a bit, from 120 down to 100, F and R.
That Turbo 1980 saddle is staying, and another will most likely sow up on my CAAD 10, I do believe I have found the saddle my bum likes as much as it dod a Brooks Team Professional.
The only thing I am looking to change are the bars, the 3ttt are 39s, I need a 42 or 44, so Cinelli Giro d'Italia 64s are going to be obtained. The bar tape will remain as is, I am most comfortable with plain Velox Tressostar cotton tape.
Just a short, easy ride tomorrow afternoon, nothing planned since it is Mother's Day, but I want to go after a regular 25 miler on the Medici, to see how I feel doing my daily ride.
My thanks to Drilluim Dude, for getting the frame to me, and for all his help and guidance, to Rootboy for the Regina Extra freewheel, Lascauxcaveman, Road Fan, and everyone that replied, and encouraged me to stay the course with this build. I am fully infected with the C&V virus, and I have no intent of seeking relief for my condition, it is a chronic, lifetime affliction for me.
Bill
BTW, for any Velobase members, I have gotten Medici listed, and the head badge contributed as well as the Pro Strada frame and complete bicycle (based on the 1980 catalog specifications, not my personal bike, it has some variances from factory spec.) I highly recommend that site, along with the knowledge I find and receive from here, it is a well set up and run website.
The brakes were fine, I did need to rotate the bars upwards just a few degrees, so as to better suit my on the hoods positioning, this got done when I got back home.
No issues with the tubulars except adjusting the placement of the tires somewhat from where they set after gluing them on. Not exactly down the middle, so I adjusted both to straighten them up, and while I was at it, I fine tuned the wheel truing. I did decide to drop the tire pressure a bit, from 120 down to 100, F and R.
That Turbo 1980 saddle is staying, and another will most likely sow up on my CAAD 10, I do believe I have found the saddle my bum likes as much as it dod a Brooks Team Professional.
The only thing I am looking to change are the bars, the 3ttt are 39s, I need a 42 or 44, so Cinelli Giro d'Italia 64s are going to be obtained. The bar tape will remain as is, I am most comfortable with plain Velox Tressostar cotton tape.
Just a short, easy ride tomorrow afternoon, nothing planned since it is Mother's Day, but I want to go after a regular 25 miler on the Medici, to see how I feel doing my daily ride.
My thanks to Drilluim Dude, for getting the frame to me, and for all his help and guidance, to Rootboy for the Regina Extra freewheel, Lascauxcaveman, Road Fan, and everyone that replied, and encouraged me to stay the course with this build. I am fully infected with the C&V virus, and I have no intent of seeking relief for my condition, it is a chronic, lifetime affliction for me.
Bill
BTW, for any Velobase members, I have gotten Medici listed, and the head badge contributed as well as the Pro Strada frame and complete bicycle (based on the 1980 catalog specifications, not my personal bike, it has some variances from factory spec.) I highly recommend that site, along with the knowledge I find and receive from here, it is a well set up and run website.
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05-07-16, 07:33 PM
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Nice clean build. Tough to beat Campy NR for classics looks. Not to mention it works fine.
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Okay, I am closing this one out, as far as posts by me go, I appreciate all the help and encouragement I received from the folks here, as well as the items I was able to source and buy from members of the forum. The Medici has turned out much better than I thought I could produce, for reasons related to the PD.
This afternoon I took her out for the regular daily 25 mile ride I do. Everything went well, no problems arose with the Medici and it felt good riding it. I got some questions about the down tube shifting, I did not cause me any problems. I took my time with shifting, but I did put things through the paces that were needed to do the ride in a decent time, for me. The braking is the only thing that stands out, when comparing the technology it has to a modern bike, it just takes more hand pressure with the single pivot brakes than the newest double pivot technology require. Different brake pads would possibly make some difference, it I was competing on this bike, and it was an issue. I adjusted my braking distances to handle the difference that these brakes require. I am fine with them just as they are.
Tubular tires, and the 22 width: this worried me with the rough road surfaces around our home. My CAAD 10 has Continental Gatorskins, in 700X25, a good deal wider and more air volume in those. The truly bad parts, some loose gravel aggregate parts, were telling, but not as bad as I feared. I didn't try to run the high pressures these these can handle, Continental Giro, 700X22, rated up to 145 psi, I ran right at 100 psi in them and it was not harsh. I am going to eventually switch them out for either 25 or 18 width tubulars, Vittoria are looking good to me.
When I got back home I checked everything over, a few things needed to be tightened back to spec, and I raised the saddle slightly. Two cables needed to be tensioned, that was most likely just my carelessness during the final assembly. I am planning to ride the daily 25 on it again tomorrow since it went so well.
I am following many of the other builds going on now, and thoroughly enjoying some of the great new members that have joined in. All the best to everyone undertaking new builds, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.
Bill
This afternoon I took her out for the regular daily 25 mile ride I do. Everything went well, no problems arose with the Medici and it felt good riding it. I got some questions about the down tube shifting, I did not cause me any problems. I took my time with shifting, but I did put things through the paces that were needed to do the ride in a decent time, for me. The braking is the only thing that stands out, when comparing the technology it has to a modern bike, it just takes more hand pressure with the single pivot brakes than the newest double pivot technology require. Different brake pads would possibly make some difference, it I was competing on this bike, and it was an issue. I adjusted my braking distances to handle the difference that these brakes require. I am fine with them just as they are.
Tubular tires, and the 22 width: this worried me with the rough road surfaces around our home. My CAAD 10 has Continental Gatorskins, in 700X25, a good deal wider and more air volume in those. The truly bad parts, some loose gravel aggregate parts, were telling, but not as bad as I feared. I didn't try to run the high pressures these these can handle, Continental Giro, 700X22, rated up to 145 psi, I ran right at 100 psi in them and it was not harsh. I am going to eventually switch them out for either 25 or 18 width tubulars, Vittoria are looking good to me.
When I got back home I checked everything over, a few things needed to be tightened back to spec, and I raised the saddle slightly. Two cables needed to be tensioned, that was most likely just my carelessness during the final assembly. I am planning to ride the daily 25 on it again tomorrow since it went so well.
I am following many of the other builds going on now, and thoroughly enjoying some of the great new members that have joined in. All the best to everyone undertaking new builds, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.
Bill
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I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
05-11-16, 12:44 AM
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Okay, I am closing this one out, as far as posts by me go, I appreciate all the help and encouragement I received from the folks here, as well as the items I was able to source and buy from members of the forum. The Medici has turned out much better than I thought I could produce, for reasons related to the PD.
This afternoon I took her out for the regular daily 25 mile ride I do. Everything went well, no problems arose with the Medici and it felt good riding it. I got some questions about the down tube shifting, I did not cause me any problems. I took my time with shifting, but I did put things through the paces that were needed to do the ride in a decent time, for me. The braking is the only thing that stands out, when comparing the technology it has to a modern bike, it just takes more hand pressure with the single pivot brakes than the newest double pivot technology require. Different brake pads would possibly make some difference, it I was competing on this bike, and it was an issue. I adjusted my braking distances to handle the difference that these brakes require. I am fine with them just as they are.
Tubular tires, and the 22 width: this worried me with the rough road surfaces around our home. My CAAD 10 has Continental Gatorskins, in 700X25, a good deal wider and more air volume in those. The truly bad parts, some loose gravel aggregate parts, were telling, but not as bad as I feared. I didn't try to run the high pressures these these can handle, Continental Giro, 700X22, rated up to 145 psi, I ran right at 100 psi in them and it was not harsh. I am going to eventually switch them out for either 25 or 18 width tubulars, Vittoria are looking good to me.
When I got back home I checked everything over, a few things needed to be tightened back to spec, and I raised the saddle slightly. Two cables needed to be tensioned, that was most likely just my carelessness during the final assembly. I am planning to ride the daily 25 on it again tomorrow since it went so well.
I am following many of the other builds going on now, and thoroughly enjoying some of the great new members that have joined in. All the best to everyone undertaking new builds, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.
Bill
This afternoon I took her out for the regular daily 25 mile ride I do. Everything went well, no problems arose with the Medici and it felt good riding it. I got some questions about the down tube shifting, I did not cause me any problems. I took my time with shifting, but I did put things through the paces that were needed to do the ride in a decent time, for me. The braking is the only thing that stands out, when comparing the technology it has to a modern bike, it just takes more hand pressure with the single pivot brakes than the newest double pivot technology require. Different brake pads would possibly make some difference, it I was competing on this bike, and it was an issue. I adjusted my braking distances to handle the difference that these brakes require. I am fine with them just as they are.
Tubular tires, and the 22 width: this worried me with the rough road surfaces around our home. My CAAD 10 has Continental Gatorskins, in 700X25, a good deal wider and more air volume in those. The truly bad parts, some loose gravel aggregate parts, were telling, but not as bad as I feared. I didn't try to run the high pressures these these can handle, Continental Giro, 700X22, rated up to 145 psi, I ran right at 100 psi in them and it was not harsh. I am going to eventually switch them out for either 25 or 18 width tubulars, Vittoria are looking good to me.
When I got back home I checked everything over, a few things needed to be tightened back to spec, and I raised the saddle slightly. Two cables needed to be tensioned, that was most likely just my carelessness during the final assembly. I am planning to ride the daily 25 on it again tomorrow since it went so well.
I am following many of the other builds going on now, and thoroughly enjoying some of the great new members that have joined in. All the best to everyone undertaking new builds, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.
Bill
Can you post a picture of the bike on the road for the sake of completeness?
All the best,
John (RealSteel).
05-11-16, 09:55 AM
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Such a neat headbadge, reminds me of being a kid and my brother used to send us pins from the Army. And beer Steins with Dragoons on them. I wonder what relevance it had for Medici. I don't know much about the background.
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I think that the lion has little real significance other than someone, possibly Bill Recht (money man and one of the characters in the California Masi saga), or maybe even Mario Confente. The name Medici was supposedly just to show the Italian influence from the link to Masi, through Confente. It looks like a Flandrian lion to me, and that would indicate a Belgian link. None there. Where the World championship rings come in is a mystery to me, also. Later years has a more ornate Medici on the down tube, it had stars and arcs of WC color bars as part of it.
There is a member here, smontanaro I want to say, that is very knowledgeable about Medici, I had hoped he would comment on my bike, and give some background about Medici and its history. Here is a link to another Medici thread that I used as a base for reference:https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ro-strada.html
If you haven't read the CR email battle royale, Medici Bicycles ~ Brian Baylis Remembers or WW3 as it was called there, that the late Brian Bayliss and Jim Cunningham took part in, you need to do so. Just have plenty of time and some aspirin, or Tylenol. It will try you as it is long, and Brian has a stilted writing style, and he wasn't grammar or spelling oriented. I also found a Medici serial number registry, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meZAfHHOwCHnWe3Ndeua0jlBVbZ3GNBBfWu7j1nmc58/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 But I have no idea how to contribute to this list.
I am still looking for information about this marque, and I have added the head badge and the frame, as well as getting the make in the list of builders, at Velobase. VeloBase.com - View Head Badge Any information about Medici will be greatly appreciated.
Bill
There is a member here, smontanaro I want to say, that is very knowledgeable about Medici, I had hoped he would comment on my bike, and give some background about Medici and its history. Here is a link to another Medici thread that I used as a base for reference:https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ro-strada.html
If you haven't read the CR email battle royale, Medici Bicycles ~ Brian Baylis Remembers or WW3 as it was called there, that the late Brian Bayliss and Jim Cunningham took part in, you need to do so. Just have plenty of time and some aspirin, or Tylenol. It will try you as it is long, and Brian has a stilted writing style, and he wasn't grammar or spelling oriented. I also found a Medici serial number registry, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meZAfHHOwCHnWe3Ndeua0jlBVbZ3GNBBfWu7j1nmc58/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 But I have no idea how to contribute to this list.
I am still looking for information about this marque, and I have added the head badge and the frame, as well as getting the make in the list of builders, at Velobase. VeloBase.com - View Head Badge Any information about Medici will be greatly appreciated.
Bill
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I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
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I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
05-12-16, 08:33 AM
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I think that the lion has little real significance other than someone, possibly Bill Recht (money man and one of the characters in the California Masi saga), or maybe even Mario Confente. The name Medici was supposedly just to show the Italian influence from the link to Masi, through Confente. It looks like a Flandrian lion to me, and that would indicate a Belgian link. None there. Where the World championship rings come in is a mystery to me, also. Later years has a more ornate Medici on the down tube, it had stars and arcs of WC color bars as part of it.
There is a member here, smontanaro I want to say, that is very knowledgeable about Medici, I had hoped he would comment on my bike, and give some background about Medici and its history. Here is a link to another Medici thread that I used as a base for reference:https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ro-strada.html
If you haven't read the CR email battle royale, Medici Bicycles ~ Brian Baylis Remembers or WW3 as it was called there, that the late Brian Bayliss and Jim Cunningham took part in, you need to do so. Just have plenty of time and some aspirin, or Tylenol. It will try you as it is long, and Brian has a stilted writing style, and he wasn't grammar or spelling oriented. I also found a Medici serial number registry, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meZAfHHOwCHnWe3Ndeua0jlBVbZ3GNBBfWu7j1nmc58/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 But I have no idea how to contribute to this list.
I am still looking for information about this marque, and I have added the head badge and the frame, as well as getting the make in the list of builders, at Velobase. VeloBase.com - View Head Badge Any information about Medici will be greatly appreciated.
Bill
There is a member here, smontanaro I want to say, that is very knowledgeable about Medici, I had hoped he would comment on my bike, and give some background about Medici and its history. Here is a link to another Medici thread that I used as a base for reference:https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ro-strada.html
If you haven't read the CR email battle royale, Medici Bicycles ~ Brian Baylis Remembers or WW3 as it was called there, that the late Brian Bayliss and Jim Cunningham took part in, you need to do so. Just have plenty of time and some aspirin, or Tylenol. It will try you as it is long, and Brian has a stilted writing style, and he wasn't grammar or spelling oriented. I also found a Medici serial number registry, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meZAfHHOwCHnWe3Ndeua0jlBVbZ3GNBBfWu7j1nmc58/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0 But I have no idea how to contribute to this list.
I am still looking for information about this marque, and I have added the head badge and the frame, as well as getting the make in the list of builders, at Velobase. VeloBase.com - View Head Badge Any information about Medici will be greatly appreciated.
Bill
Cool that you could plug that up on Velobase. Such a great site.
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A great result and a very special bike, Congrats!
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When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.