anixi

dddd,

I for one would love to see your gear translation set up. I'm pining for a similar setup myself. I'd also like to see if a 9 speed Ergo would work with a Shimano RD. Something for the Mechanic's thread perhaps.

Puget Pounder

He's rockin' a true threadless now.

4Rings6Stars

I thought it looked too good to be true!

Thanks for the info.

runningDoc

here's a post with the conversion I did: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post14242296

Its a true threadless set up now, with a new headset and steerer shim (for the modern stem).

the headset (cane creek 100 classic 1") is nice because its like the Chris king's where you can swap out the top part(s) and use a threaded or threadless system. All you have to do is call cane creek to buy the extra parts.

the cane creek 100 classic 1" can be found for $75 and the replacement parts for a threaded top assembly is less than $40 from cane creek. plus cane creek uses the sealed bearings and compression centering ring even in the 1" headsets. so it comes out a lot cheaper with some advantages over the Chris King set ups (+ threaded converter kit).

I did the threadless conversion for two reasons...

1. because I was extremely curious if it would work, and also I found a ritchey double crown fork from a 62cm bridgestone RB-1 that was in really rough shape (rust spots galore). I had it powder blasted and re-powder coated after measuring to see if there was enough steerer to handle a new threadless conversion.

2. this way I always have an extra fork - just in case i ever have a "fork's bent" situation. I can just easily swap out the top part of the headset to the threaded version and use my old fork with a threadless adaptor - or go totally retro with a quill stem ect ect.

thirdgenbird

My Yokota has had 3 or 4 forks in its life. I still keep a carbon threadless fork and the original threaded steel one around. Switching between them keeps my options open. campy headsets can be swapped between threaded and threadless as well.

BoozyMcliverRot

Cross post

Picked this up Diamondback Master TG up yesterday and this is how i got it....
https://sarasota.craigslist.org/bik/3016687777.html


The guy had electrical tape over the original bar wrap,so i pulled it off and the wrap was in surprisingly good condition.The saddle sucken balls,so I went straight to my LBS after picking it up and bought a Bontrager RL for 15 bucks.Also picked up some Lizard Skins DPS in white,but I have to get new cables before I wrap.Luckily I had a seatpost to fit it because the stock post was steel.

This is the current set up



I am probably going swap out all the vintage 105 with a Sram Apex group and some neuvation wheels.

revchuck 

Nice! The Apex group will look good on that bike...remember, though, that just because an 11-32 cassette will work with that group doesn't mean it's the best choice unless you need the wide range.

Is the current rear wheel on your bike set up for a freewheel or a cassette? If the latter, you might want to consider putting a new freehub in it and using the stock wheels. (If you do this, it's probably a good idea to get the wheels serviced, tensioned and trued as well.) Another option, if you want to keep the bike looking "old" but want new wheels, is to get something like these: https://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1677 . Low spoke count wheels with bladed spokes look kinda strange on a classic steel bike to me...but it's not my bike, so if they're what you want, go for it!

dddd

Anixi, my PX10 came with non-original derailers and aero brake levers, so I chose to make 8-sp Ergolevers work using this method:
https://www.ctc.org.uk/desktopdefault...id=3946#Hubbub
The modification described basically shortens the derailer's travel in response to cable movements, allowing the use of the Shimano derailer with Campagnolo index shifters.

If you have pre-2001 9-speed Ergolevers, they will index standard 6-speed using a normal (not pre-9-speed Dura-Ace) Shimano indexing derailer, without the above modification.

With 8-speed Ergolevers, using the above-linked cable routing to the derailer anchor bolt washer will also index with 5 or 6-speed standard spacing.

If your shifters are the newer 9-speed Ergo's, consult the linked chart to find something that will work. There are quite a few possibilities.

I just found (on Craigslist for just $20.00!) and re-spaced a pair of wheels for 7-speed use with only 124mm over-locknut axle width for the PX10, and will need to install an 8-speed Campag derailer at this point for use with the new 7s freewheel.
The hubs were only 5-speed, so now there is only a 3.0mm nub of axle protruding past the locknuts (axle is proprietary-thread so couldn't be readily replaced with a longer one).

Here's the Giang freewheel (13-28t) on the re-spaced hub.
Locknut grip surface now extends only 3.5mm beyond the outer face of the small cog, so will just clear a 7-speed (7.3mm) chain width. Note fine-threaded axle, Maillard's best (and as also used on Roval wheel hubs).

anixi

A thing of beauty, dddd, thanks a lot!!

cesafacamah

wow, this is the nicest hotest built here

cesafacamah

i have a frame just like this to start building
what's your advice, how did you fixed the bb? they match with italian thread?
what other things should i keep in mind?
i am thinking campagnolo chorus, i want a black groupset, carbon or not
sram force might be a sollution, being cheaper
thank you

IthaDan 

Picked this up yesterday-

'89 Stowe Criterium. PO added Tricolor STIs in the mid 90s. Falling in love with this thing. Hard.







Album link

sced

A good source of Campagnolo for an Italian classic

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/gsg/ro...RIBMO&tmp=_CAR

buldogge

This is one of the ex-Serotta builders, no? Did I just see this posted somewhere, Paceline maybe??

Very cool...

IthaDan 

Yeah, from what I gather Rob Stowe learned from Ben Serotta before he set out on his own with phase three. He also did some bikes for Quintana Roo. TIG steel with no label for tubing type, lugged BB and seatstay/TT junction. So solid, love the short wheelbase and 74* HT.

Only posted this bike here and on SA.

HankT

I looked through every single page and all of these bikes are beautiful! I can't wait to start upgrading my frame.. But I don't even know where to start. Yes, still learning.

himmiesutton

Here is my 91 Diamondback Prevail TG, Tange Prestige, powder coated and with Tiagra 9-speed running gear. It turned out to be a very light bike and a real sweet ride.

rebelcontender

Kenevans: 8 Speed chorus/record. Shamal tubs

anixi

I just sold a DB Master, looked a lot like this, red and it was 22lbs with heavy components. If I hadn't bought my Pug Triathlon I would be still riding it. Nice, under-rated bikes. So they're made in Taiwan, and they're welded. Who cares!

IthaDan 

Much better-

Epicus07 

It was your duty.

Looks great.

Sixty Fiver

Proctor Custom... refitting with 600 Tri Colour and not shown is the 600 aero post I liberated from my Cooper and a 600 Tri C wheel set is in the works. "La Piccola Capra Rossa" seems be a fitting name for a bike that climbs so very well...

Puget Pounder

That wishbone stay is sexy.

dwellman

I got the shifting sorted out. LBS finally fixed something.

On a side note, it turned out both wheelsets I tried had issues (bent rims). I ended up with. . . basically the same wheels as what came with the bike: Wolber Apline T430 (albeit with Shimano 600 hubs, instead of 105-- not that I'm complaining). So everything is stock except the shifters, saddle, and hubs.

I rode it for 20 miles. Wow. Fastest bike I own (so far) for average speed.

jeebusaurousrex

After 2 years of upgrades, races, crashes, and being generally beat to hell, I think my Circuit has changed enough to re-post.

Here it was, sparkling and clean right after the build:


And here it is after today's ride (us city folk have to do with stoops because we don't have white garage doors):


Updates:
Bicycle Wheel Warehouse Blackset 10 wheelset
Black Vittoria Pro tires - Soon to be replaced with Continentals
White Rolls saddle - The original red one's color bled all over my shorts even after thousands of miles and made it impossible to ride in regular pants
53/39 SRAM Rival chainrings/bolts - I had originally used Specialites TA Alize 52 rings, but the front shifting was still poor. These work great, but I have to get used to the 39 replacing the original 42. Also they're not very bling. Oh well, form over function I suppose.
Cinelli 1A stem 100mm - Original spec 90mm was way too short
SRAM 1051 chain - Original 1071 chain finally snapped a link; found out that the 1051 is specced out to be more robust even though it's - oh no - 20g heavier because it doesn't have hollow pins...again, oh no.

After getting to know this bike very well, I'm ready for a stiffer frame. Next up, a 1986 Peloton. Still waiting to get the group set together. I'll most likely build it up very close to how the Circuit is built.