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Old 10-19-09, 07:13 PM
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Peugeot with 453 Reynolds tubing??

Just got this peugeot and cant find any info about a peugeot having 453 reynold tubing. I figured somewhere around the early to mid 80's but cant find any models that have that tubing. Any help would be great. Thanks.
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Reynolds 753
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There is indeed a Reynolds 453 tubing, but I don't think the Peugeot bike that might have had it was ever sold in the US.
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I have a Batavus Champion with Reynolds 453 tubes. I think its from the 80's. When I found it it had a helicomatic rear hub and sachs RD. It appears to be single butted. It rides well but is a little heavy. The only other bikes I've heard of with 453 were Gitanes.

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Originally Posted by meneermalik
Just got this peugeot and cant find any info about a peugeot having 453 reynold tubing. I figured somewhere around the early to mid 80's but cant find any models that have that tubing. Any help would be great. Thanks.
Pictures are needed.


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There is indeed a Reynolds 453 tubing, but I don't think the Peugeot bike that might have had it was ever sold in the US.
You are correct!!!
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I'll get pics

I'll get pics up later today. It definitely is NOT 753...it very clearly says on the sticker...peugeot 453 reynolds..etc. I only found one reference (so far) to a 453 reynolds peugeot and that was to a uo-12 which I've yet to be able to find any pictures of or specs. It's definitely from 1984 or beyond as it uses the new color schemes for decals that came out that year and were used throughout the 80's after.
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453 was the evolution of 501 for Reynolds. Single butted, manganese/titanium alloy. Entry/mid level. It was also used on Gitane and Falcon bikes, that I know of. Usually coupled with 105 components esp. in the Falcons.

here is a pic from a Reyonolds catalog that says a tad more about the tubing:

https://home.comcast.net/~bobequus/images/bikepictures/Reynolds-transfers.jpg

Not sure that it has many advantages over 501, that's probably why it is kind of obscure.


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Is it seamless?
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Originally Posted by EjustE
453 was the evolution of 501 for Reynolds. Single butted, manganese/titanium alloy. Entry/mid level. It was also used on Gitane and Falcon bikes, that I know of. Usually coupled with 105 components esp. in the Falcons.

here is a pic from a Reyonolds catalog that says a tad more about the tubing:

https://home.comcast.net/~bobequus/images/bikepictures/Reynolds-transfers.jpg

Not sure that it has many advantages over 501, that's probably why it is kind of obscure.

Is 453 better quality tubing compared to 501?? Having the exotic and expensive sounding Titanium in it's alloy mix seems to suggest it is. IIRC, the 501 has a less exotic sounding alloy mix. (CrMo/Manganese??) Being called an "evolution" of the 501, you'd hink the 453 ould have been assigned a higher number than 501 the, like uhmmm.... 520??
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Originally Posted by Chombi
Is 453 better quality tubing compared to 501?? Having the exotic and expensive sounding Titanium in it's alloy mix seems to suggest it is. IIRC, the 501 has a less exotic sounding alloy mix. (CrMo/Manganese??) Being called an "evolution" of the 501, you'd hink the 453 ould have been assigned a higher number than 501 the, like uhmmm.... 520??
HLE tubing has titanium in it.
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Originally Posted by miamijim
HLE tubing has titanium in it.
I guess Ti ain't so exotic afterall.........even cheapy drill bits from Costco have the stuff on it too.......and Carbon is just everywhere, even on the char-broiled hamburgers we get at BK!

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Reynolds 453 was the lowest grade of tubing offered by Reynolds in the late 1980s. It had 0.8mm walls with 1.0mm butts. Reynolds didn't bother to list a weight because they only offered the main triangle. However, it would have been slightly heavier than the plain gauge SMS, which was probably the stay and fork material on most 453 frames. SMS had a weight of 2700g compared to 2300g for 501 and 2050g for 531C, so 453 was pretty hefty.

There's a good chance your 453 frame is from Canada.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Reynolds 453 was the lowest grade of tubing offered by Reynolds in the late 1980s. It had 0.8mm walls with 1.0mm butts. Reynolds didn't bother to list a weight because they only offered the main triangle. However, it would have been slightly heavier than the plain gauge SMS, which was probably the stay and fork material on most 453 frames. SMS had a weight of 2700g compared to 2300g for 501 and 2050g for 531C, so 453 was pretty hefty.

There's a good chance your 453 frame is from Canada.
A review of the data from the Reynolds site, tubing bearing the Reynolds 453 sticker "may" not even be mfg. by Reynolds. Lending support to where it sits on the quality scale as T-Mar pointed out in 2009.
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My first vintage bike, before I even knew what that was, was an 80s Falcon Harrier with Reynolds 453 and little Union Jacks on the top of the seat stays. I liked it; however, I later read that this formulation was prone to rusting. Not sure of that but on mine, hit a bump one day, and the chainstay bridge just cracked and was rusty looking. Never had that happen with any other bike.

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Peugeot with reynolds 453 frame is Canadian

Originally Posted by meneermalik
Acabo de recibir este peugeot y no puedo encontrar ninguna información sobre un peugeot que tenga tubería 453 reynold. Calculé en algún lugar alrededor de principios o mediados de los 80, pero no puedo encontrar ningún modelo que tenga ese tubo. Cualquier ayuda seria genial. Gracias.
Peugeot con cuadro reynolds 453 es canadiense, fueron creados entre los años 84 a 88, el cuadro pesa 2600g, es un cuadro que se oxida si no se cuida bien, todos los tornillos hay que engrasarlos antes de instalar , la horquilla es reynolds 501, dependiendo del año sus llantas 27 o 700, el grupo shimano que se instaló en ese año fue el grupo básico Z. Manillar, tija de sillín y manillar de la económica muy pesados. Era una bicicleta muy suave para andar y agradable en la ciudad
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