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Old 03-20-19, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung
The BSA Roadster is now completed, spent all day re-assembling and I have ridden it so all is OK. Still might replace saddle but will use as is while I decide. Also it would be nice to find a replacement reflector for rear mudguard (Fender) as the rubber is in a very bad way. Bike is good now for another 83 years!!!!!!!
Freaking beautiful. But where is the rod that works the front brake?
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Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln
Freaking beautiful. But where is the rod that works the front brake?
Hi: If you enlarge the last photo showing the bike from the front you will see it is very discreetly positioned along side the front fork then makes a kink taking it inside the fork halfway down to reach the drum brake operating lever.

expand the phot below and you will see what I mean.
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Originally Posted by gster
Looking at these scorchers, I think a small frame looks best
with the seat and bars extended as required.
The smaller frames appear more compact and agile.
Black being the preferred colour, of course.
The 21" frame does have a different feel from the 23". More sporty I think. Any scorcher build I do from now on will be a 21. Especially if I flip the bars. For upright position, I do need this longer stem to get the upper body balance I like on the smaller frame.
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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung
The BSA Roadster is now completed, spent all day re-assembling and I have ridden it so all is OK. Still might replace saddle but will use as is while I decide. Also it would be nice to find a replacement reflector for rear mudguard (Fender) as the rubber is in a very bad way. Bike is good now for another 83 years!!!!!!!




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Brilliant! Excellent work. So nice to see. I love projects like this. That reflector looks to be the same 1 3/4", measured including the rubber case, type that was used for a long time on English roadsters. I'll bet with some careful Exacto knife work, one could remove the lens from a Lucas reflector and replace it with that original one.
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Originally Posted by BigChief
Brilliant! Excellent work. So nice to see. I love projects like this. That reflector looks to be the same 1 3/4", measured including the rubber case, type that was used for a long time on English roadsters. I'll bet with some careful Exacto knife work, one could remove the lens from a Lucas reflector and replace it with that original one.
Yes Big Chief: I was thinking along those lines, I cleaned up the lens when reinstalling the reflector and it is in good shape, if I can find one say on eBay it would be very easy to swap the lens over. Regards!!
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Originally Posted by BigChief
The 21" frame does have a different feel from the 23". More sporty I think. Any scorcher build I do from now on will be a 21. Especially if I flip the bars. For upright position, I do need this longer stem to get the upper body balance I like on the smaller frame.
One of the nicest bikes I put together was this 1938 Hercules Falcon.
It was too small for me and I sold it to a friend at work (he still has it).
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Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln
Amen Big Chief. There's no doubt in my mind that getting around by bike can keep us physically much younger than our years might lead a person who's not active to expect. Assuming you can avoid being crushed by a texting, belligerent, or just plain crazy driver. I'll turn 66 soon but I just had a physical and, although any of us can be blindsided by illness, as far as the things that are checked routinely in a doctor's office my numbers look great. I didn't leave my desk job willingly but it still may have been the best thing ever happened to me. I ride to work, all weather, day or night, and I think there are underappreciated physical benefits to regular exercise in winter cold and summer heat, and as I've got a walking around job I'm on my feet the entire time, too. People tell me I move like a much younger man (except for bending down which is hard now, goddamn it! ). The last time I bought a subway pass was August 2007. That has saved me so many thousands of dollars that it's something, along with the staying healthy thing, that make my bike expenditures seem relatively puny. And if spending a few hundred or even a grand here and there on bikes fires up a person's level of enthusiasm for riding one, it's seems to me it's money very well spent.
im only 62 but i agree with u whole heartedly.
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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung
The BSA Roadster is now completed, spent all day re-assembling and I have ridden it so all is OK. Still might replace saddle but will use as is while I decide. Also it would be nice to find a replacement reflector for rear mudguard (Fender) as the rubber is in a very bad way. Bike is good now for another 83 years!!!!!!!
Is the white yellowed area on the rear mudguard the patch? If so, it was expertly done.
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Originally Posted by gster
One of the nicest bikes I put together was this 1938 Hercules Falcon.
It was too small for me and I sold it to a friend at work (he still has it).
Unusually, I've got a 38 Falcon way down in the project list. But too big for me, maybe I should offer this one up. Hmmm Too bad, we could have swapped!
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Originally Posted by clubman
Unusually, I've got a 38 Falcon way down in the project list. But too big for me, maybe I should offer this one up. Hmmm Too bad, we could have swapped!
that is my size.... just got a falcon by clement however and should stop.
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that is my size.... just got a falcon by clement however and should stop.
...should stop...Bwa-hah-ha, arf, snort!!
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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung
Hi: If you enlarge the last photo showing the bike from the front you will see it is very discreetly positioned along side the front fork then makes a kink taking it inside the fork halfway down to reach the drum brake operating lever.

expand the phot below and you will see what I mean.
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1936 BSA Roadster, 3Speed (BSA) + Hub Brakes

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Is the white yellowed area on the rear mudguard the patch? If so, it was expertly done.
The Yellowed Area is a bolted on propriety Celluloid White Safety item to give visibility and I think dates from WW2 period.

The repair patches are on edges of both front & rear mudguards (Fenders) and don't show very well as they are sprayed black as per rest of mudguards.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
that is my size.... just got a falcon by clement however and should stop.
What size wheels is the frame made for?
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EA1/597 mm bead. I have most all the original parts for the bike, drop bars, mudguards, wheels with a rear 3 speed freewheel and the 'esoteric' Herailleur indexed gearing system. I suspect someone upgraded the bike after the war to the newest gear around 1950. Maybe it should be listed under the retro roadies upgraded to STI thread

The nice thing about about the EA1 club wheels is they very nearly have the same effective diameter as 700c's if one didn't want to go the EA3 route. I have some NOS original club rims and tires in the stash.
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Sears hub in for exploratory surgery tomorrow. Quick wipe down and some overdose of thin oil for tonight. Studying the exploding diagram for this one also.
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Originally Posted by PeterLYoung
The BSA Roadster is now completed, spent all day re-assembling and I have ridden it so all is OK. Still might replace saddle but will use as is while I decide. Also it would be nice to find a replacement reflector for rear mudguard (Fender) as the rubber is in a very bad way. Bike is good now for another 83 years!!!!!!!




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I'm really diggin the twisted rack stays.
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Sears hub in for exploratory surgery tomorrow. Quick wipe down and some overdose of thin oil for tonight. Studying the exploding diagram for this one also.
I'm interested in the outcome. So is this a rebranded SA hub or no?
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Sears hub in for exploratory surgery tomorrow. Quick wipe down and some overdose of thin oil for tonight. Studying the exploding diagram for this one also.
Not easy to tell from diagram but looks a lot like an AW. Except, left side of hub shell unscrews? That's sure different.
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I found one!





Came across this on the Bay and drove over two hours to pick it up! Ticks off two boxes I've been meaning to take care of!

(Sellers pictures)
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They're Still Out There
This Hercules popped up on Kijiji, Toronto today.
Hard to tell much about it from the photos.
Priced at $100.00 so may be worth a look.
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Originally Posted by Chr0m0ly




Came across this on the Bay and drove over two hours to pick it up! Ticks off two boxes I've been meaning to take care of!

(Sellers pictures)
Almost gave me another HA! Thought you had gotten the one I am going to pick up soon. But all is well. That is a very nice looking machine! What year is it?
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Originally Posted by tigervw78
I'm interested in the outcome. So is this a rebranded SA hub or no?
So far in the exploratory, it is a direct match for the diagram. I haven’t dug into it fully, have my homeschooled pupil today. Sometimes I would like to take him apart...!

must remember to take lots of pics for my bad memory.
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They're Still Out There
This Hercules popped up on Kijiji, Toronto today.
Hard to tell much about it from the photos.
Priced at $100.00 so may be worth a look.
I like the looks of this one. Wish I could see more. The mudguards look pre war to me.I even like the funky art deco chainguard. Old aftermarket or off an American bike? I think I'd keep it.
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Thread directions of 26 tpi Raleigh bottom brackets?

On my famous 1952 Rudge project, I finally got the drive side cotter pin out, so I removed the cranks, spindle, chain, adjustable cup, fork, wheels, et cetera.

Now I have the Stonich BB tool attached to the seemingly-stuck drive-side BB cup to be able to grab the funky surface features, and I don't know if they remove righty-tighty or lefty-tighty? Anybody know the thread direction?
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