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    Rode home with just the Vis 360

    for most of the trip the other night just to see what it would be like. It was still over 80 degrees out and I felt like just taking it easy, so I figured this would be a good night to see what I could see with only 1 light. I usually use that in addition to xml Magic shine on the handlebars, and did turn the Magic Shine on a few times when crossing some busy roads, but overall I was impressed with how well I could see with "just" the Vis 360. My old L2D that used to be the light to have when I bought it seems even dimmer now.

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    if you are just using a light to see with and not doing any high speed descents, you really don't need much. That's if you don't meet up with anyone that has a light bright enough to destroy your night vision.

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    I was really impressed with how much light the Vis 360 headlight puts out during the time I had mine. However, I returned mine after about a week because the run times were poor on the battery and the taillight did not see nearly as bright as advertised. My Vis 360 taillight seemed no brighter than a simple Planet Bike Superflash and was way dimmer than my Dinotte 140.

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    The run time is better than on my Magicshine (I've got the replacement battery) and I've got the PBSF and an old Mars2 on the rack when I need more light in the back. I turned all 3 on one night to see what they looked like in the mirror and it was wild.

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    I just upgraded to the Vis 360 Plus and am really impressed. The headlamp is rated at 250 lumens. I did my first ride yesterday and noticed a big difference vs. my old Vis 360. You can also toggle off the rear lamp thereby making it group ride friendly. According to Light & Motion the run time is slightly longer, too. Haven't verified that yet. It's a little pricey but I value the power to freeze motorists like deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug View Post
    I just upgraded to the Vis 360 Plus and am really impressed. The headlamp is rated at 250 lumens. I did my first ride yesterday and noticed a big difference vs. my old Vis 360. You can also toggle off the rear lamp thereby making it group ride friendly. According to Light & Motion the run time is slightly longer, too. Haven't verified that yet. It's a little pricey but I value the power to freeze motorists like deer.
    If you really believe those are bright lights ...... I'm thinkin' you need to get out more.

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    My stella 200 is doing great around town. Tho I had to return the first one because it would not charge. the second one works great. I don't see myself buying any new lights unless I mtn bike during the night but right now in indiana thats not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burton View Post
    If you really believe those are bright lights ...... I'm thinkin' you need to get out more.
    Thanks for the constructive comment! You're a big help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pug View Post
    Thanks for the constructive comment! You're a big help!
    And what kind of 'constructive criticizm' are you actually open to? Posting comments like " It's a little pricey but I value the power to freeze motorists like deer.' tells me that you don't have much exposure to any really effective lighting. Ran onto the marketing rep for Light & Motion at the trade show over the weekend in Toronto and went through all his products. It was a little disappointing to see nothing I'd consider recommending. There was an unlit wall in a tent 15 feet away and pointing any of the less than 500 lumens at that wall - it was hard to tell they were even on. The rear VIS 180 was particularly disappointing cosidering all the hype around it.

    Cars used to have kerosene lanterns too. I guess compared to those, a couple L&M lights might look pretty impressive, but they're still vary short of what I'd consider effective lighting. So I still think you need to get out more.
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