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Old 07-29-05, 08:53 PM
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Hi,

I got this new cyclometer but it seems that the speed and distance are calculated only in miles... no kilometers...

Do you know if there is a way to change this?
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Polar doesn’t explain this one very well in the manual but it’s on page 54.

Cycle the display over to the “Settings” page. Then go to the General set, then Units. From there select kg/cm instead of lb/ft.
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Big thanks!


Originally Posted by Medpilot
Polar doesn’t explain this one very well in the manual but it’s on page 54.

Cycle the display over to the “Settings” page. Then go to the General set, then Units. From there select kg/cm instead of lb/ft.
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the CS 200 should have it's own sticky .

So as not to add one more thread here's a few questions:
1) I'm having issues with the polar uplonk (weblink seems to be working great). My computer is not receiving logos or time changes. Granted it's defintely not a big thing but I figured I'd ask if anyone has had this or knows the fix
2) More importantly on my inaugural ride home today I was on a brisk but definitely not maximum speed. On my old bik compter I would probably have averaged 15-17 mph with all the stoplights and the slowing down. Polar clocked me at 19.5 mph which I find quite high. My max speed was 22 mph so it's not like the miles spiked up or anything.

Does the CS 200 (over) compensate for slowing down and stopping?
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I haven’t really played with the uplink stuff too much. That really doesn’t interest me that much. I keep my own training logs and make my training decisions base on that.

As far as your increased speed goes. I’d double check that you put in the right number to calibrate your wheel. You could have had a greater tailwind or less of a head wind then what you’re use to. I know the first time out with my Camelbak I was averaging 3mph higher than normal. Turns the winds were just blowing a different direction than the norm.

The Polar cs200 will also stop calculating your average speed once you stop if you have the auto-start function activated. It will only calculate your “ride time” for your average speed. That could account for a higher average.
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I just got my CS200. Nice computer but the uplink is VERY disappointing. Other polar computers allow much more configuration via the uplink. The CS200 only seems to support time and icons.

Does anyone know of a way to set the odometer as I'd like to make it to match the miles on my old computer. If not, I guess I can cobble together a circuit that will make it read 99mph and let it sit there for a day or so.
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Originally Posted by Medpilot
I haven’t really played with the uplink stuff too much. That really doesn’t interest me that much. I keep my own training logs and make my training decisions base on that.

As far as your increased speed goes. I’d double check that you put in the right number to calibrate your wheel. You could have had a greater tailwind or less of a head wind then what you’re use to. I know the first time out with my Camelbak I was averaging 3mph higher than normal. Turns the winds were just blowing a different direction than the norm.

The Polar cs200 will also stop calculating your average speed once you stop if you have the auto-start function activated. It will only calculate your “ride time” for your average speed. That could account for a higher average.

Wheel is calibrated correctly and I've been commuting the same route for the past year that I know to estimate my average speed on my old comp (CATEYE ASTRALE) which would have been 20 mph if I was pushing it but basically doesn't go significantly higher because fo the stops. I remember an older post where a guy had what seemed to me was a high average speed considering him metioning numerous stoplights on his ride. HEnce I'm coming to the conclusion that the polar is a bit more generous in the average speed arena.
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Originally Posted by jslopez
Wheel is calibrated correctly and I've been commuting the same route for the past year that I know to estimate my average speed on my old comp (CATEYE ASTRALE) which would have been 20 mph if I was pushing it but basically doesn't go significantly higher because fo the stops. I remember an older post where a guy had what seemed to me was a high average speed considering him metioning numerous stoplights on his ride. HEnce I'm coming to the conclusion that the polar is a bit more generous in the average speed arena.

Possible explanation.

a) lowest speed cyclocomp records

which effects
b) amount of time recorded for trip

which would
c) effect the average speed

This would be exacerbrated by constant start stops.
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One thing for sure is that the autostop is very quick on the CS200polar. On my previous cyclometer, the autostop was working after about 2 min of inactivity... For the CS200... after 20 sec... it's on... So, it can make a big difference when you have a trip with some stop and go.

I rode with 2 cyclometers today (my old one and the CS200). I have noticed that the distance was quite the same. However, the Polar was slow to change the speed... reaction very slow.... also, what is "weird" was that the speed was always lower....



Originally Posted by operator
Possible explanation.

a) lowest speed cyclocomp records

which effects
b) amount of time recorded for trip

which would
c) effect the average speed

This would be exacerbrated by constant start stops.
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The uplink is ridiculous and until it is fixed you cannot change the odometer setting.

Does anyone know how to get it to read heart rate as a percentage of maximum instead of a number?

While the web links are not very good now, this is still the best computer out there.
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Originally Posted by wannaride
The uplink is ridiculous and until it is fixed you cannot change the odometer setting.

Does anyone know how to get it to read heart rate as a percentage of maximum instead of a number?

While the web links are not very good now, this is still the best computer out there.

I don't see that option with the uplink cs200 software, am I missing something?

changing number to pecentage is in the settings option.
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In the Limits Set - whoda thunk?

According to Polar tech the only way to change the total mileage is through the uplink but that option is not presently available on the uplink.
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Originally Posted by wannaride
In the Limits Set - whoda thunk?

According to Polar tech the only way to change the total mileage is through the uplink but that option is not presently available on the uplink.
This is nuts. What the hell is wrong with polar's uplink program. Only allows time and logo uploading. I found an older version of the software that lets you set a few more things. The newer version does not. It's useless and I'm shocked that they haven't done something about it.

I'm going to take matters into my own hands. I'm going to back door it with a simple electronic circuit. Probably a 555 timer toggling a transistor tied to an electro magnet at rate of about 22 times a second should make it read roughly 99mph. Leave it sit like this until it reaches my old odometer reading.

Once that's done, I'll be creating an open source software project to replace this piece of crap.

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Another question to add to his thread. The polar cycling caoch website has an option to track how much time you spend in 5 specific sports zones. Mine just says 0 time for all of them. Is this something that only other polar products can use or am I missing a setting or 2. I think this is a good product (or my expectations are low) but they are really stingy with info and software support.
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I just got my CS200 the other day and I would like to reset it. I cant find out how? The uplink tool is worthless to say the least. Would anyone know of a way. I have removed the battery but that does not seem to work. Thanks,
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Wow I was planning a polar cs100 purchase... Screw that!
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Originally Posted by operator
Wow I was planning a polar cs100 purchase... Screw that!

I've been very happy with my cs200, I haven't had one single problem. Just goes to show you can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time.
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For those of you that are having problems where the computer is slow to pick up the speed and or cadence, have you tried to increase the sending unit power? Not sure if this is still an option, but with the older speed/cadence sensors, there is a switch inside that allows you to adjust the "distance" (power) that the sensor sends its information with. If the computer is slow to pick up, it may just be that the "sending power" may need to be tweaked a little. Hope this helps some of you.
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How do you do this???

Please explain!


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For those of you that are having problems where the computer is slow to pick up the speed and or cadence, have you tried to increase the sending unit power? Not sure if this is still an option, but with the older speed/cadence sensors, there is a switch inside that allows you to adjust the "distance" (power) that the sensor sends its information with. If the computer is slow to pick up, it may just be that the "sending power" may need to be tweaked a little. Hope this helps some of you.
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When everyone says it’s slow to pick up. How long is slow? I timed mine today and the average time for it to pick the speed and cadence was about 3-4 seconds. During a 1-2 hour ride, 3 seconds is not very long.

What kind of delay is everyone experiencing?
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Same delay but it's just not like other computers hence the worry from some people I suspect. I for one like this feature as it then capture the actual riding time/speeds rather than the stops.
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The quick "autostop" is a nice feature. Gives you a better average speed. However, as you mentionned, the delay is long... 4-5 seconds... compare to other wireless... cheaper ones.. where it is very quick...

Also, mine was not reliable... not very fun to go for a ride and then have it stop working... since then, was not able to get it back working...



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Same delay but it's just not like other computers hence the worry from some people I suspect. I for one like this feature as it then capture the actual riding time/speeds rather than the stops.
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Originally Posted by etincelle
How do you do this???

Please explain!
Inside the transmitters (at least the ones compatible with the s520, 720i, etc) there was a little switch that allowed for different settings of "sending power/distance". In the instruction manual I got with my 520, it advised that if I wanted to use the speed sensor on the rear wheel I should consider changing the "sending power/distance" to account for this.

As other posters have said since my first post, the 3-4 seconds delay is absolutely normal with just about any wireless system--especially one that is trying to pick up two seperate signals (speed and cadence). If that is really that big of a deal, then its time to get rid of the Polar and go back to your wired computer and seperate HR setup.
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Originally Posted by martin_j001
Inside the transmitters (at least the ones compatible with the s520, 720i, etc) there was a little switch that allowed for different settings of "sending power/distance". In the instruction manual I got with my 520, it advised that if I wanted to use the speed sensor on the rear wheel I should consider changing the "sending power/distance" to account for this.

As other posters have said since my first post, the 3-4 seconds delay is absolutely normal with just about any wireless system--especially one that is trying to pick up two seperate signals (speed and cadence). If that is really that big of a deal, then its time to get rid of the Polar and go back to your wired computer and seperate HR setup.

Per Polar support, there is no way to increase xmit power on the CS200's sensors (like you could with the other Polar sensors). I have no idea why they decided to use different sensors for this unit...cost maybe?? I have yet to mess with the uplink stuff...though the weblink software appears to be working fine....finally! Pretty ridiculous that their programmers couldn't fix a simple data conversion problem before they released the product....

3.5 miles of my commute is under high-voltage power lines...I was having issues with this at first (the speed sensor would cut out sporatically)...but once I moved the speed sensor as close to my brakes (up the fork) as I could, the problem resolved itself. The unit has not cutout once since I made this adjustment. Seems they've done a great job with the wireless portion. I too have noticed the "delay" with the speed and cadence sensors...but it's definitely not a big deal...and as a previous poster stated, it actually increases the accuracy of the "ride time" data.
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Seems as though the CS200cad is getting its share of knocks. Have to say...this is the computer I wanted for cadence and HR. Now I am not so sure. How many of you think it is a big deal to have to send the chest belt back to Polar to get fresh batteries when other HRM belts have replaceable batteries? Wonder how often the HR belt batteries need replacement and how long the belt would be at Polar? Replacement intervals I presume is a function of how much you would use it...but there clearly would be down time to send the belt off to Polar for battery replacement not to mention added cost which pads Polar's bottom line for every HRM sold.
Not sure what I will do...maybe purchase a separate SI HRM with replaceable belt batteries to use with my Cateye bike computer...maybe the best solution.
Anybody know if S.I. makes a handlebar mount for their watch style HRM?
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