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Old 02-08-10, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BarryJo
Seriously, who rides with a spare spoke?
Or am I missing something?
Power for instance.
Local MS-150 has wrenches riding with kid trailers full of goodies. Among those goodies: lots of spare spokes. Not among those goodies? Rolf wheel building fixtures.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Local MS-150 has wrenches riding with kid trailers full of goodies. Among those goodies: lots of spare spokes. Not among those goodies? Rolf wheel building fixtures.
I didn't think about support vehicles.
How come no Rolf wheel building fixtures though?
No love for paired spoked wheels?
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Originally Posted by bikebo
is there anyone in the forums that HAVE had a paired spoke wheelset and have something negative to say?

looks like all the negatives come from people who have never ridden it before, and all the positive comes from people who actually own a set.
i have a broken rolf vector hub and a broken bontrager rim in my collection of parts. both were non crash related. the rolf hub has a broken flange on the drive side and the bontrager rim has cracks around the drive side nipples.

i have not owned any wheels with triplet lacing (though my dad has a pair) and it makes sense, the spoke tension is very close on the drive vs non drive side. theoretically, this should make for a very strong wheel.
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Originally Posted by BarryJo
I didn't think about support vehicles.
How come no Rolf wheel building fixtures though?
No love for paired spoked wheels?
what % of riders do you see on rolf wheels?
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Originally Posted by bikebo
oh no i have no knowledge of these wheels other than what i can find on the www. thats what this threads for.

i just wanted to know if anyone has actually had a set of paired spokes and can say all the negs ive seen above.

looks like ppl who never rode em call them death wheels, high speed squirrel catchers, etc.

does anyone who owns a set feel the same way?

jus wondering if i should disregard most of the negs due to lack of experience. or if they are valid and will indeed increase my chances of blow up/ taco/ critter catch and so on..
Listen to waterrockets. He speaks true. It's not that they're particularly bad. It's just that they're unnecessary and kind of silly. They're about as durable as any wheel with a similar spoke count of the same weight. The major drawback is that because the spokes are paired tightly and then you have a large gap to the next pair, each pair needs to be under higher tension. If a spoke breaks, as with any lower spoke count wheel, the wheels likely will be instantly unrideable.
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The stock Bontrager Selects lasted me about 1700 miles before the back was made unrideable by cracking around the eyelets. Several places around the rim were cracked, and not just pull-through cracks at the eyelet holes, some were linear fissures near the braking surface. I'm a heavy rider and I didn't like them before they broke, they were too flexy to stand up on. Of course these are crappy wheels to begin with, but I'm happier now without paired spokes.
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Originally Posted by BarryJo
How come no Rolf wheel building fixtures though?
I think it's about as big as the machine that installs car tires onto rims

Well, not really, but you don't want to bring it on the MS-150 just in case the two fashionistas who brought Rolfs have some trouble. Better to just loan them one of your normal wheels and get on with it.
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Originally Posted by BarryJo
And yes, this was discussed not more than 2 weeks back.
Haha, ya...I made that one cause I was bored, and controversy is entertaining, I think he actually cares about an answer in this one.
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if a spoke breaks during a ride on a paired spoke wheel, is the rim insta***ed?

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if your dont cary a replacement. i knew a guy who carried a spoke or two tapped to the inside of his seat stay when took long rides on his rolfs. he needed them on more than one occasion too.
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Originally Posted by kneeeerow
if a spoke breaks during a ride on a paired spoke wheel, is the rim insta***ed?
No, rim should be fine. It will remember some bend, but easily trued out under tension. You sure as hell won't be able to ride it home though -- unless you're on those old 2200g Rolf Vectors, which wander around at normal tensions.
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When I broke a spoke on my paired spoke wheels the rim was fine, barely even rubbed on the brake pads. I was able to limp home.

Guess that's one good thing about a 3kg wheelset.
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Trek finally abandoned the paired spoke design on their current wheels. I take that as a sign the idea of paired spokes is form over function.
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whats a good price on this wheel?

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...STRK:MESELX:IT


thanks in advanced
so... is this still at a reasonable price for a paired spoke wheel? or can i find easily for cheaper?

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Originally Posted by cc3chan
Trek finally abandoned the paired spoke design on their current wheels. I take that as a sign the idea of paired spokes is form over function.
probably from the immense amount of returns due to cracked eyelets.

I remember seeing at least one report of cracked eyelets on bontrager wheels here every other week.
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