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Old 02-24-14, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Doughboy6
I suspected that this is what it may be, just surprised that it would happen with so few miles, I have only had the bike since the middle of January. Now I am really beginning to hate winter roads.
It's not winter roads, it's just bad installation. BB30 really complains when not installed properly.
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Here's some tool porn for you guys if you're nerdy like me. This is my BB30 installation setup.



OH, when you all get bearings, switch them to angular contact bearings. They are much better for bb applications. They're Enduro 71806's. Should be about 20 bucks for the pair.
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Originally Posted by chaser97
Yep, that's what I mean. Campag BB30 over torque is a con. Believe me I'm the biggest Campag fan ever... Since I was a kid in the 80's but this 'BB30 standard' claim is a joke. Forgive me if I got something wrong but I posted my actual experience, having the parts there in front of me, I'm a very proficient bike tech. I took the 'over torque' chainset back to the shop and just purchased the adapters for my existing Campag chain-set. Sorted : )
That was about a thousand miles ago and no problems at all. My friend however, who still has the BB30's is on second set of bearings in the same time and has creaking issues with the second set already.
To add a bit more confusion, see the bottom center photo. No dimensions, but it looks like the Campagnolo document I posted earlier. I can't help wondering if the shop supplied you with the wrong parts.
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Ack. Forgot the link:
https://fairwheelbikes.com/c/forums/t...-torque-ultra/
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
It's not winter roads, it's just bad installation. BB30 really complains when not installed properly.
Whats the fix for this, reinstallation? Or is this a warranty issue?
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Unless you have really doused things while riding and gotten a good bit of crud in the BB 650 miles is pretty short time frame for them to go bad. They come with less grease than I like when they are built and assembled and unless your LBS really goes through things thoroughly the BB can need lubing early. If it is trashed, and you feel that is the case, you might want to take it in when the shop opens back up. Servicing the BB isn't difficult or time consuming, you need the correct size hex wrench to remove the crank spider/arm assembly and use a good, clear diagram of the entire BB so you can reinstall the parts correctly. Better yet, take some digital pictures of things as you go so you have a reference for the reassembly order, if you decide to look in to what is going on.

But, I think its a warranty item with that few miles, don't screw around with things and have the LBS say that you messed it up your self. Best of luck.

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Originally Posted by Vince Canepa
To add a bit more confusion, see the bottom center photo. No dimensions, but it looks like the Campagnolo document I posted earlier. I can't help wondering if the shop supplied you with the wrong parts.
I can see why you are confused but I can promise you it was an over torque chainset and the axle was way too long for the width of the CAAD10 bb shell. That's what alerted me to the issue.
The shop spoke to the distributor who confirmed that I needed to fit some press in cups to make it work with BB30 frame.
also please note this product... https://www.wiggle.co.uk/campagnolo-over-torque-bb-cups/

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Originally Posted by Doughboy6
Whats the fix for this, reinstallation? Or is this a warranty issue?
Yes, and yes.

New bearings will need to be installed, which should be supplied through warranty.
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
Yes, and yes.

New bearings will need to be installed, which should be supplied through warranty.
Thank you all for your advice and help. Now I get the fun of having to deal with a LBS that didn't actually sell me the bike. I purchased it while I was home on Christmas break in NJ, but am at school in WV. I'll let you all know how it goes.
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Originally Posted by Doughboy6
Thank you all for your advice and help. Now I get the fun of having to deal with a LBS that didn't actually sell me the bike. I purchased it while I was home on Christmas break in NJ, but am at school in WV. I'll let you all know how it goes.
No problem at all.

Your local Cannondale dealer shouldn't give you an issue with the warranty process.
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You might want to give your bike a good cleaning. And if washing it use low pressure running water from your garden hose, and wash from the top down. Then dry it of, i use compress air to dry mine with. then a detailer for the paint. lube your chain, and check your RD to make sure its not out of adjustment and you FD as well. Also with 650mi you need to check your chain to make sure its not stretch. Because if you ride with a stretch chain you will end up wearing out the cassette and chainring. If still hearing the sound have your LBS check the BB30 bearing, doubt thats it though because they usually make a popping sound when the bearing is bad. also make sure all the bolts are tight and none came undone.
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I'm itching for spring to come, so I can ride my 2013 Team CAAD 10.....
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Did a 100 klm today in 86deg f temp
0n my 2014 CAAD 10 105
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Cannondale N+3

The image below is a photoshop mockup of the bike build as it's intended to be, or close to it. Found the frame on eBay, a 2010 Caad 9, for my wife. Haven't seen this particular frame/color pattern before. I hope she likes it when it's all done.

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That's awesome, she should love it (at least my gf would )
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Hey guys. Posted a few days ago about but a used caad 10


checked out the bike and it looks in good condition. Maybe needs a new chain.

Need some advice please on best course.

2011 caad 10 with SRAM force used for 1100$cad

or a new 2013 10 with 105 for 1450$cad.

I thinking of going new as the. I get piece of mind with the warranty.

Any thoughts. Please and thank you.
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For the extra bit of cash I'd go the new one
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What condition is the 2011 Force in? For a 3 year old bike it is high, Force is a good group set but 105 is pretty much an Ultegra with a few more ounces and you aren't getting a Shimano crank set on a CAAD unless it had the adapter installed, new it won't. If the LBS is a good one, the 2014 fits you correctly and you can go the price I'd stick with that one. Just my thoughts, as you asked. Best of luck with either one.

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I agree with qcpmsame, I'd spend the extra $350 in a heartbeat for the new 2013 over the 2011. Those are both good prices considering they're CAD$. Take 20% off for US dollar equivalent.
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Originally Posted by vschippy
For the extra bit of cash I'd go the new one
Me too.
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Originally Posted by longbeachgary
Me too.
Thanks for the input, the main reason i'm thinking new is for the warranty but i'm not sure if im just being overly cautious. I'm really like the carbon cranks on the 2011. I guess the reason i was thinking the 2011 was for the SRAM which i always wanted to put some serious miles into and i like a lot of the guys on here like to make things my own. So with the old one i can spend the difference on making it my own.

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Originally Posted by qcpmsame
What condition is the 2011 Force in? For a 3 year old bike it is high, Force is a good group set but 105 is pretty much an Ultegra with a few more ounces and you aren't getting a Shimano crank set on a CAAD unless it had the adapter installed, new it won't. If the LBS is a good one, the 2014 fits you correctly and you can go the price I'd stick with that one. Just my thoughts, as you asked. Best of luck with either one.

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The 2011 looks to be in good shape, some wear on the chain but still life it, the chap had the frame covered with those paltic squares to prevent cable rub which says to me he looked after it, and he had to put air the tires for me to ride it as he hadn't used to since last summer.

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Hey Alan,

Chain wear might mean that the cassette and/or front gears might also have some wear. Did you check how much stretch the chain has? If it’s out of rage then you might be on the market for a lot more part replacements than just a chain. Get a chain wear gauge tool for $10 and check the chain wear. That info might be fruitful to your decision making.

The 105 would be new, under warranty, minimum basic fit or more, at least one year of basic tuning and could probably deal in a set of Keo or 105 pedals for free. Plus you might get 20% off anything else you buy in that store. That’s what I did with my Rival.
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Questions....Replacing my stem and this little piece is no longer in reach of the cap on top. How do I get it out? Or do I just get it out with what ever works

And when I go to tighten everything down, how do I prevent this?

I am not sure if I am Googling it right, but I got no results related to this.

No rush on the response, I am about to step into work.

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