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Anyone Primal Blue Print ?How do you manage rides, races and training w/ No carbs?

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Old 03-19-12, 08:42 AM
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cane, check out the zone diet, designed by a biochemist. it specifies a personalized caloric goal to be reached with a balanced proportion of carbs, protein and fat.

jim, how are you doing paleo or primal with cheese? thats breaking rule number one.

no matter what you call it, take into consideration modern american culture. controlling total carb intake and shifting its composition to more favor nutrient dense and less caloricly rich sources like vegetables and a bit of fruit instead of grains, sweets, and other sugary things are undeniably the ways to go to get to and maintain leaner form.

as wayward as this thread is, its a lot better than the weight weenie thread. you just cut 7 going on 8,000 grams off the engine, right?
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My Personal Findings on Primal Blue Print


So I started this thread after discovering that the industry standards for healthy eating
and my lack of knowledge was making me fat and unhealthy. I also have gain a little more maturity in the area of cycling.

Primal Blue Print- For me brought me back to basics and squashed the concept that meat and animal fats are bad for you. The idea to eating everything in its best natural
state is not new. I do see where health industries mixes up with the extras: like soy, vegetable oil, and daily intake of 300gm of carbs through grains. That will make you tip the scale for sure and people wonder why they eat lean cuisines each day and still gain weight.

My application of primal daily: Eat more protein(Beef, Chicken, Fish) to keep me full, carb intake by way of vegetables and some fruits, limit dairy but not exclude it, drink water and take a good multivitamin.
For weight maintenance 150gm of carbs daily.
For weight loss 50 to 100grm of carbs in vegetables and fruit a day and exercise 30 to 45min 3 to 5 times a week.

My application for cycling: For long rides of more than 2hrs or crazy fast rides eat carbs that you will expend in that ride. Whatever that carbs you choose should be used for the purpose of that activity. If you have extra body fat then your body should be be fat burning machine and not a sugar burning machine. (all grains, bread, pasta, potatoes turn to sugar). You should depend on energy daily that comes from your body fat. Sugar not expended turns to fat in your body.

My error and discovery: In the past I was taking way too many carbs not expending it on the daily. On rides my body was burning my extra carbs intake but my fat was not touched. So the days I didn't exercise I continually ate over my daily limit of carbs and sugar was adding to my weight. Not understanding this caused frustration.
I also stressed out and didn't sleep well.

Benefit of this knowledge: I can choose what to eat and eat how I want knowing the truth of what my body will do with that food. I choose primal blue print because I like meat, good vegetables and real butter and it's good for me. . I choose to eat carbs when I need it for that activity only. My body can not be sustain on grains and sugars. It is sustain on protein, vegetables and dairy. That is the good food.

My results is weight loss of 22lb, my body is leaner and I see muscle tone. I have a lot of energy. My family and friend say I look so different now. I am not at my goal of 170 to 175 but i hope to be by June.

My recommended improvement for me: To get a better sleep plan for sleep at least 7hrs a night. My weight has maintained between 19 to 22lb weight loss. I have enjoyed a few celebrations family and friends. So now that I have the concept down to get serious about it and see where I'm at by June 2012.

Cycling Maturity: It's about having fun and consistently improving To stay a classic cyclist: Enjoy the friendship you develop, train per event, race when you got to race. Show manners and respect to your fellow cyclist no matter the machine they ride.
I like road biking because it takes you fast and long. I'm discovering mountain biking because it's fun.
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awesome! the best post here in quite some time!
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awesome! the best post here in quite some time!
Thanks. I did add photos and little more information.
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cane, check out the zone diet, designed by a biochemist. it specifies a personalized caloric goal to be reached with a balanced proportion of carbs, protein and fat.
The Zone diet worked well for me back when I was on it. I may do it again, my weight fluctuates a lot, and I gained quite a bit this past winter.
And all you have to do is buy the book, if that even. No supplements or specially prepared meals.
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my schedule doesnt really work with intermittent fasting so im trying a weekly 36 hour water fast, and its been great.
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this looks like a good summary. https://www.dbhonline.com/zoneful/p_basic.htm and this to fill out the calculator https://www.leighpeele.com/body-fat-p...nd-percentages you dont have to break your intake into a certain number of meals and snacks. just stay with the right total block count.
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Originally Posted by Magnificent777
So I started this thread after discovering that the industry standards... I like road biking because it takes you fast and long.
Nice post. Well done!
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Anyone else going to the spaghetti feed before the big MS 150 race tomorrow?? Gotta load up.
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get that gluten out of here! haha

i could go for some noodles and gravy right now.
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I'll just leave this here...

https://journals.cambridge.org/action...07114509371767
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i havent gone strict gluten free myself. actually, id guarantee that i slam oats in the top 1% of all humans while still being lowish carb.
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Originally Posted by therhodeo
Anyone else going to the spaghetti feed before the big MS 150 race tomorrow?? Gotta load up.
Skip it.

That's not how carbo-loading works. Your body can only store a fixed amount of carbs. In order to "load" you need to go through a pretty serious depletion cycle before hand. If you haven't done that there will be no 'loading' effect.

It takes water to store carbs so a pasta pig out the night before a ride (the MS 150 is not a race) will only leave you bloated and sluggish.

Eat a normal dinner, a good (but not excessive) breakfast and take food on your ride. I like to eat an apple while warming up and raisins are cheap, portable energy.

Have a good ride.
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Cliff's notes? I can only understand that it's saying that a gluten-free diet affects gut bacteria -- but I can't tell if it's saying that it's having a good or bad effect.
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