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Old 05-31-14, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramona_W
....... I would not do deep-fried peanut butter and jelly sandwich again but it was fun once.
That you would even do it once puts you in a rare category of dare devils.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
Can't wait to hear a good quality recording. Get a cd together and you might get a couple hundred sales here in bf.
I have written 47 songs, the best 12 are easily enough for a full album, but I'd never do it, studio recording is enormously time consuming and/or expensive. I'll try to record JD & I live, we're actually playing a full set on June 9th at the benefit I've arranged for the Warwick Valley Humane Society in memory of my late Dad.

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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...bar position higher than saddle, they'll eat you alive. Points for the low spoke count wheels, though.
Pedals wrong position, cluttered background, slam the stem, seat post below bar. This kids toast and he ain't even started.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
I have written 47 songs, the best 12 are easily enough for a full album, but I'd never do it, studio recording is enormously time consuming and/or expensive. I'll try to record JD & I live, we're actually playing a full set on June 9th at the benefit I've arranged for the Warwick Valley Humane Society in memory of my late Dad.

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Not that I know anything about it but I hear using the computer can get you some excellent recordings now with the various programs available and for a fraction of the cost. Maybe iTunes could be an alternative? Actually being serious here.
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...I dated a girl in college who was both a deep thinker and a real dish. I should have married her.
More than likely really hot and bothered too.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
VV posted in the 41 and RuRu posted in "the thread".

It's like getting the band back together!
Throw in ijen, low cell and that g...n nut what's his name from Ohio and we can have a party.
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Originally Posted by RUOkie
in other news, the homebrew is coming along nicely. I'm currently sipping on my Tripel. It has been aging for the past few months. Damn did it turn out nicely. Just brewed up a DIPA and I've got a summer ale as well.
Shut up, you're making me wish I wasn't an addict. Welcome back dude.
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Not that I know anything about it but I hear using the computer can get you some excellent recordings now with the various programs available and for a fraction of the cost. Maybe iTunes could be an alternative? Actually being serious here.
The gear you need to do excellent quality studio recordings is cheap these days, and all you need is a home computer. It's the massive learning curve of those programs and the huge time commitment involved in doing it. I really can't handle it. Hey, it's hard work just laying down studio tracks when someone ELSE is handling the tech side (I've laid down guitar tracks). I love writing songs, playing guitar, performing. Studio recording not so much. I'll try to get some live recordings of us soon.
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JD and I killed tonight. Took it to the next level. Man, we had that room riveted.
traded your guitars for guns?
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Today is our last day in Greece, we fly out at 7:30pm, back to London for a night. After experiencing Greece, I am resolved to take life a little more mellowly and to drink more good wine. (Although I have already scheduled a climbing ride with a friend about 10 hours after I arrive home. And I got a message yesterday- "hey, do you want to climb Dawson's Saddle next Sat, 7000 ft of continuous climbing, some friends just did it and it's a total climb fest, the toughest climb in SoCal?". Uh, ok. )

Today we decided to just hang at the pool, this is q really nice hotel. So I dont have any pics for yall except this one of a staircase at the hotel. i

I'm crazy for these Greek roses, the find at this hotel has been Ktima Alfa Xinomavro Syrah Rose. I had it at dinner the other night and today poolside. I'm going to order a case of it when I get home, if I can figure out how to do it. It will be the summer of the Greek rose if I can manage it
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Originally Posted by patentcad
The gear you need to do excellent quality studio recordings is cheap these days, and all you need is a home computer. It's the massive learning curve of those programs and the huge time commitment involved in doing it. I really can't handle it. Hey, it's hard work just laying down studio tracks when someone ELSE is handling the tech side (I've laid down guitar tracks). I love writing songs, playing guitar, performing. Studio recording not so much. I'll try to get some live recordings of us soon.
Really? I thought to myself. So I messaged a friend who is a professional musician, has several albums. Here's what he said:

"Hey <Heathpack>

There are many factors involved - how many session players would be involved, what they need to be paid, etc. If it's solo stuff, or with a band that's well-rehearsed, I would expect about four days of tracking and two days of mixing. A 10-hour day lockout at a good local studio like Overdub Lane is about $600, not counting the cost of an engineer.

Basic rule of thumb: each song costs $1,000.00

... <but> if he's by himself and can go relatively quickly, he can get four songs a day. that's three studio days, plus one or two for mixing. so, it could be as low as $3K or so. It's best, in my experience, not to lowball these things though."

Very interesting, I had no idea.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Really? I thought to myself. So I messaged a friend who is a professional musician, has several albums. Here's what he said:

"Hey <Heathpack>

There are many factors involved - how many session players would be involved, what they need to be paid, etc. If it's solo stuff, or with a band that's well-rehearsed, I would expect about four days of tracking and two days of mixing. A 10-hour day lockout at a good local studio like Overdub Lane is about $600, not counting the cost of an engineer.

Basic rule of thumb: each song costs $1,000.00

... <but> if he's by himself and can go relatively quickly, he can get four songs a day. that's three studio days, plus one or two for mixing. so, it could be as low as $3K or so. It's best, in my experience, not to lowball these things though."

Very interesting, I had no idea.
You can really do it for next to nothing if you're willing to put endless hours into the home recording process. To do that you have to LOVE doing it. I don't. I may eventually get a studio recording of a couple of songs. I'm an amateur/hobbyist musician (the small amounts of $ I earn playing local gigs notwithstanding), I enjoy doing that, but would I invest thousands of dollars or hundreds of hours into studio recordings of my original songs? Not really.

One of the guys I play with (Steve, not JD) is heading back into the studio to record some more of his stuff, he wants me to lay down harmony vocal and lead guitar tracks, so I'll do that for him. But he's the one laying out the dough for the studio time.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Today is our last day in Greece, we fly out at 7:30pm, back to London for a night. After experiencing Greece, I am resolved to take life a little more mellowly and to drink more good wine. (Although I have already scheduled a climbing ride with a friend about 10 hours after I arrive home. And I got a message yesterday- "hey, do you want to climb Dawson's Saddle next Sat, 7000 ft of continuous climbing, some friends just did it and it's a total climb fest, the toughest climb in SoCal?". Uh, ok. )

Today we decided to just hang at the pool, this is q really nice hotel. So I dont have any pics for yall except this one of a staircase at the hotel. i

I'm crazy for these Greek roses, the find at this hotel has been Ktima Alfa Xinomavro Syrah Rose. I had it at dinner the other night and today poolside. I'm going to order a case of it when I get home, if I can figure out how to do it. It will be the summer of the Greek rose if I can manage it
You have the eye of an artist. Really nicely composed photos. Now what was the camera app you use?
Regarding mellowness, 4 years ago in the throws of addiction and working insane hours as a surgeon with 2 daughters departing for college, I realized that I had never really been present at home. I was always distracted whether on vacation , at home , asleep, making love, I was always in surgery mentally and away from everything else. I realized death was not far off and that part of the problem for me was surgery itself. I retired from surgery and got myself into rehab , then devoted myself to wound care and family. I am now relaxed, present, and loving the peace of this life and work. The need to prove who I was by what I did, how big an operation , how hard I worked and how busy I was had disappeared with recovery. I can now say that addiction was the best thing that happened to me for without it and recovery , I would still be in that race. Ciao and thanks for the wonderful stories and photos.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
If you put it in the New and Improved, it'll get ripped to shreds, unless it's staged perfectly.
At least both sides are drive sides.

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And what the hell's that red plastic thing on his stem?
It covers the collar bolt - I guess they don't want little Johnny gashing a knee on the clumsy hardware.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
I suspect hackers. Or commies, can't rule out commies.
Damn commie hackers...
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
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Cool pic, Heathpack!

Originally Posted by patentcad
You can really do it for next to nothing if you're willing to put endless hours into the home recording process. To do that you have to LOVE doing it. I don't. I may eventually get a studio recording of a couple of songs. I'm an amateur/hobbyist musician (the small amounts of $ I earn playing local gigs notwithstanding), I enjoy doing that, but would I invest thousands of dollars or hundreds of hours into studio recordings of my original songs? Not really.
I've heard some great recordings done in home studios and I love low-budget recordings, in general. One of the great things about them is that people usually don't have the budget or know-how to screw things up - as long as there are no serious acoustic flaws with the room, I think that a single-take recording in a live space captures the humanity of music better than multiple tracks of spliced, isolated performers that have been mixed together.
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Originally Posted by RPK79
I really hope we can get this man made climate stuff down so we can just keep the temperature at 72 and only have it rain at night.
I'd prefer 70.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
You have the eye of an artist. Really nicely composed photos. Now what was the camera app you use?
Regarding mellowness, 4 years ago in the throws of addiction and working insane hours as a surgeon with 2 daughters departing for college, I realized that I had never really been present at home. I was always distracted whether on vacation , at home , asleep, making love, I was always in surgery mentally and away from everything else. I realized death was not far off and that part of the problem for me was surgery itself. I retired from surgery and got myself into rehab , then devoted myself to wound care and family. I am now relaxed, present, and loving the peace of this life and work. The need to prove who I was by what I did, how big an operation , how hard I worked and how busy I was had disappeared with recovery. I can now say that addiction was the best thing that happened to me for without it and recovery , I would still be in that race. Ciao and thanks for the wonderful stories and photos.
Lol, people assume I'm a workaholic because it took a lot of doing to get the training that I got and also because I'm ok with being called from work any time. But really I'm not. I'm not even really ok with being called from work at any time, it's just easier to put out small fires than huge conflagrations. But, if I won the lottery, I'd walk away immediately. The truth is, I go to work for the money. The ironic thing is that I need to spend a lot of money to recover from the intensity of what I do to earn a living- which is why we travel, sail, cycle etc. I know for a 100% fact that I could live more simply, do something way less intense and it would cost much less. Some day I will likely do just that. In fact, I have in the past- about 10 years ago, I quit my job, took a year off and didn't work at all- was totally burnt out from too many hours, too many emergencies. So I totally get it, I'm not addicted to the lifestyle of what I do and I would rather not be defined by it if at all possible. My life experience had taught me that everything is temporary, so I kind of look at what I'm doing right now as just that- what I'm doing right now, just a temporary thing, not who I am. Which is not to say that it's not a trap, just that I know it is. If that makes sense.

The app BTW is Photoshop Express, the free version. I also have the $5 paid app and don't like it.

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The Parthenon. Built up on the acropolis (ie the highest point in town), a big building project organized by Pericles after the older temple was destroyed by the Persians. This all happened in the 400BC timeframe. So roughly 1000 years after the Minoans & their Palace of Knossos. The Parthenon was built as a temple to Athena, the main goddess of Athens. She is the goddess of wisdom & courage, among other things.


The Erectheum. Also on the acropolis, built around the same time. I like this one because of the porch. The porch's roof is held up by six giant statues of women, very appealing.


Jacaranda trees outside the Zappeion. The Zappeion is where many EU meetings are held because the Greek Prime Minister is currently the president of the European Union. We came across these trees walking back from the Acropolis to our hotel.


When I got back to the hotel, I started thinking about those 3 pounds & wondered if maybe I should swim some laps. So I ask the front desk & they tell me to use the indoor pool, which is a floor below the lobby, ie in the basement. This is a pretty nice hotel, so I wasn't expecting it to be grim, just functional. I get down to the basement (or floor -1, as they call it) and it turns out the indoor pool is part of the spa. Here's the atrium with palm trees. They issue me a locker room key and off I go, full-on spa slippers & robe experience. Swim a half mile, then I hit the herbal steam room, then the amethyst steam room, then the rain shower experience, then the foot spa bubbly thing, then the Swedish sauna. When I got back, Mr H asks how far I swam because I was gone so long.

Tomorrow we have an evening flight to London, where we'll sleep at an airport hotel before heading back to the US the following day. We're pretty full of sights, though, not sure how many more we can process. We might just hang out at this swank hotel all day tomorrow, we have a 4pm late check out. We'll have to see how ambitious we are tomorrow. We've had a great trip but are both ready to go home.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I get very hot and bothered when 41ers use the expression "deep dish" to refer to deep section aero rims.

Don't they know that wheel "dish" refers to the offset of the rim relative to the middle of the hub??

Don't they know that "deep dish" refers to some Second City perversion of pizza??

Sigh.
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I think they don't know any better.
The people of Chicago?
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Originally Posted by Rowan
I'd try that, except someone else around my place gets a little agitated if I ride and she doesn't...
Same here.


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At least both sides are drive sides.
Whoa.

Escher-esque.
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The people of Chicago?
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Lol, people assume I'm a workaholic because it took a lot of doing to get the training that I got and also because I'm ok with being called from work any time. But really I'm not. I'm not even really ok with being called from work at any time, it's just easier to put out small fires than huge conflagrations. But, if I won the lottery, I'd walk away immediately. The truth is, I go to work for the money. The ironic thing is that I need to spend a lot of money to recover from the intensity of what I do to earn a living- which is why we travel, sail, cycle etc. I know for a 100% fact that I could live more simply, do something way less intense and it would cost much less. Some day I will likely do just that. In fact, I have in the past- about 10 years ago, I quit my job, took a year off and didn't work at all- was totally burnt out from too many hours, too many emergencies. So I totally get it, I'm not addicted to the lifestyle of what I do and I would rather not be defined by it if at all possible. My life experience had taught me that everything is temporary, so I kind of look at what I'm doing right now as just that- what I'm doing right now, just a temporary thing, not who I am. Which is not to say that it's not a trap, just that I know it is. If that makes sense.

The app BTW is Photoshop Express, the free version. I also have the $5 paid app and don't like it.

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