How many on the 41 still like steel bikes???
05-19-15, 02:30 PM
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Another thing I like in steel is that up to a point, you can straighten up a deformed frame. Not possible on aluminum or CF.
05-19-15, 03:11 PM
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Yes that's right, but the amount you have to work with is pretty minor.
05-19-15, 05:23 PM
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It's more about alignment and spreading the OLD than it is straightening out a bent or kinked tube. You know what Linda Ronstadt said about hearts and wheels? "You can bend them, but you can't mend them." Well same for frame tubes. Unless you like Bondo and paint.
05-19-15, 05:25 PM
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high end high end like a Mario Confente or Richard Sachs? worth a shot
otherwise, it's just spoiled goods. a gios or cinelli or ron cooper...not quite irreplaceable
05-20-15, 07:23 AM
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Dave Moulton's opinion on that subject:
Dave Moulton's Blog - Dave Moulton's Bike Blog - Straightening bent*seatstays
05-20-15, 07:52 AM
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Some knowledgeable people wouldn't agree.
Dave Moulton's opinion on that subject:
Dave Moulton's Blog - Dave Moulton's Bike Blog - Straightening bent*seatstays
Dave Moulton's opinion on that subject:
Dave Moulton's Blog - Dave Moulton's Bike Blog - Straightening bent*seatstays
05-20-15, 07:54 AM
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Some knowledgeable people wouldn't agree.
Dave Moulton's opinion on that subject:
Dave Moulton's Blog - Dave Moulton's Bike Blog - Straightening bent*seatstays
Dave Moulton's opinion on that subject:
Dave Moulton's Blog - Dave Moulton's Bike Blog - Straightening bent*seatstays
all im saying is that its spoiled good. not for me.
say a brand new frame was damaged from transport on the way to a shop. the shop bends it back to specs, trued alignment and all. would you buy it? would you pay the same price as an untarnished copy?
again, not for me. so the benefit of repairability holds no personal value.
05-20-15, 07:57 AM
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05-20-15, 08:09 AM
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50 miles on the 1983 Paramount yesterday enjoying every minute on it, BUT, the ride on the Giant is much more enjoyable.
05-20-15, 08:32 AM
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Started out riding carbon, had a custom steel bike built, sold the carbon. I do enjoy Ti quite a bit as well, however.
05-20-15, 12:22 PM
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Is that actually what you mean by repairing or straightening a stay? Is that how you want your bike to look? If you care about the functionality and aesthetics of the bike as well as the safety, then only tube replacement in a brazed situation would really allow a steel bike frame to be repaired. Otherwise it might just as well be Ti, Al, or CF. Actually CF might be the most repairable of all.
all he says is that a bent steel frame can be straightened. thats not in dispute.
all im saying is that its spoiled good. not for me.
say a brand new frame was damaged from transport on the way to a shop. the shop bends it back to specs, trued alignment and all. would you buy it? would you pay the same price as an untarnished copy?
again, not for me. so the benefit of repairability holds no personal value.
all im saying is that its spoiled good. not for me.
say a brand new frame was damaged from transport on the way to a shop. the shop bends it back to specs, trued alignment and all. would you buy it? would you pay the same price as an untarnished copy?
again, not for me. so the benefit of repairability holds no personal value.
05-20-15, 02:22 PM
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I only ride vintage steel with updated components...
My 1991 Quattro Assi with SRAM Rival and Stradalli carbon rims/bars, cages and Ritchey carbon post/stem:
My 1990 Bottechia Team ADR with Shimano Tiagra and Mavic rims:
My 1986 Zeus Victoria with full Ultegra (trying out an eBay knock-off spider saddle:
My 1991 Quattro Assi with SRAM Rival and Stradalli carbon rims/bars, cages and Ritchey carbon post/stem:
My 1990 Bottechia Team ADR with Shimano Tiagra and Mavic rims:
My 1986 Zeus Victoria with full Ultegra (trying out an eBay knock-off spider saddle:
05-20-15, 02:24 PM
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05-21-15, 08:23 AM
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It's like saying "I've never driven a Hyundai or a Kia; only Lamborghinis, so I could be missing out"!
Funny- I have an aluminum and a CF bike. I like the aluminum bike more because "It reminds me of steel". My next bike will be steel; Think it's time for the CF bike to go bye-bye.
05-21-15, 08:31 AM
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You're not missing a thing. A GOOD (as in: really good; top-O-the-line) aluminum bike can be similar to steel; and CF is O-K, but just can't compare to steel.
It's like saying "I've never driven a Hyundai or a Kia; only Lamborghinis, so I could be missing out"!
Funny- I have an aluminum and a CF bike. I like the aluminum bike more because "It reminds me of steel". My next bike will be steel; Think it's time for the CF bike to go bye-bye.
It's like saying "I've never driven a Hyundai or a Kia; only Lamborghinis, so I could be missing out"!
Funny- I have an aluminum and a CF bike. I like the aluminum bike more because "It reminds me of steel". My next bike will be steel; Think it's time for the CF bike to go bye-bye.
05-21-15, 11:08 AM
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You're not missing a thing. A GOOD (as in: really good; top-O-the-line) aluminum bike can be similar to steel; and CF is O-K, but just can't compare to steel.
It's like saying "I've never driven a Hyundai or a Kia; only Lamborghinis, so I could be missing out"!
Funny- I have an aluminum and a CF bike. I like the aluminum bike more because "It reminds me of steel". My next bike will be steel; Think it's time for the CF bike to go bye-bye.
It's like saying "I've never driven a Hyundai or a Kia; only Lamborghinis, so I could be missing out"!
Funny- I have an aluminum and a CF bike. I like the aluminum bike more because "It reminds me of steel". My next bike will be steel; Think it's time for the CF bike to go bye-bye.
"...Yeah, but just think: If you had a 17 lb. CF bike, you'd finish your rides 10 seconds faster!
..."Wait, I'm confused. A Lamborghini is going to be 10 seconds slower than a KIA?
In any case, afters having two vintage old steel frames crack because of rust, and having dents on my aluminum bike, the repairability of Carbon seems very appealing, albeit somewhat cost prohibitive.
And the CAAD10 has a waaaayyy better ride and feel than the RB-1. REAL TALK.
09-29-15, 08:02 PM
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"... by gone era"? Really?!?
I got this 1996 Mondonico last fall. I spent the spring tuning it up (it'd been in storage), this bike is as fast as my Felt. If you're into Strava and VeloViewer... Here are some nerd stats to back up my feelings:
Mondonico:
VV score 98.40 & 26 PR based on first 162 miles.
Felt:
VV score 98.34 & 242 PR based on 1,560 miles.
Considering the Mondonico has ~10% of the miles and ~10% of the PRs, I'd say that 'Steel is REAL!'. Some of the Mondonico miles were late last fall on 20 year old tires and brakes (not aggressive riding), I got it all finished up late last month. I'm planning to get some longer ride on the Mondonico in the next few weeks, but last couple weeks have been focused on my gravel grinder getting ready for the Almanzo 100.
Writing off steel as 'old' is a mistake.
Edit... after thought: Have you ever ridden a quality steel frame bike?
I got this 1996 Mondonico last fall. I spent the spring tuning it up (it'd been in storage), this bike is as fast as my Felt. If you're into Strava and VeloViewer... Here are some nerd stats to back up my feelings:
Mondonico:
VV score 98.40 & 26 PR based on first 162 miles.
Felt:
VV score 98.34 & 242 PR based on 1,560 miles.
Considering the Mondonico has ~10% of the miles and ~10% of the PRs, I'd say that 'Steel is REAL!'. Some of the Mondonico miles were late last fall on 20 year old tires and brakes (not aggressive riding), I got it all finished up late last month. I'm planning to get some longer ride on the Mondonico in the next few weeks, but last couple weeks have been focused on my gravel grinder getting ready for the Almanzo 100.
Writing off steel as 'old' is a mistake.
Edit... after thought: Have you ever ridden a quality steel frame bike?
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09-29-15, 08:37 PM
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Mid 70's Viner. I love riding it, it's extremely smooth. I'm going to replace the wheels with a modern 700c set and a 7 or 8 speed cassette. Not replacing the friction downtube shifters though.
09-29-15, 11:48 PM
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Really dude? Can you read? What is in the line you quoted from my post about a Tommasinni? I also own a Merckx Zero-uno. I ride steel all the time. I have 2 S-works and I ride my steel bikes just as much. Do you think I'm a hater? You ought to read before you toss **** at someone?
09-30-15, 06:50 AM
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Would somene please buy this bike so I can stop looking at it?
1988 Panasonic DX-5000 - great condition
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1988 Panasonic DX-5000 - great condition
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