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Old 09-10-14, 05:49 AM
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Similar to that Dr Scholls machine they have in Walmart etc to sell shoe inserts? Dr Scholl's® Footmapping
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It's incredible how much BFers know about things they've never seen in practice. Great stuff.
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Is this just a ploy to email pics of your ass??
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It's incredible how much BFers know about things they've never seen in practice.
You say that like its bad
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You say that like its bad
Not at all. I find it very..... entertaining.
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Originally Posted by Looigi
Similar to that Dr Scholls machine they have in Walmart etc to sell shoe inserts? Dr Scholl's® Footmapping
I actually prefer that machine for saddle sizing. I sat on one of the foot pads and the machine told me to purchase a Toupe 155mm.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
It's incredible how much BFers know about things they've never seen in practice. Great stuff.
A self indictment? Practice is whether the machine works not some theoretical capability. The jury is out whether it does.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
I actually prefer that machine for saddle sizing. I sat on one of the foot pads and the machine told me to purchase a Toupe 155mm.
I did the same but it told me to try Dr Scholl callus remover for the wort
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
A self indictment? Practice is whether the machine works not some theoretical capability. The jury is out whether it does.
Not at all. I am in the process of discovering how effective it is. But, I'm not judging it before the trial is finished. And, yes, the jury is always out until it's in.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
Not at all. I am in the process of discovering how effective it is. But, I'm not judging it before the trial is finished. And, yes, the jury is always out until it's in.
Fair enough. We are all having some fun with this topic and perhaps this technology or iterations moving forward will be a substantive leap forward to choose the best saddle to reduce overall pressure.
Please report what you find out.
Cheers.
PS: not the ass-o-meter supplied by Specialized is the best predictor, but some will say the assmeter is pretty flawed when it comes to choosing a saddle. Best agreement for example based upon a computerized topographical map isn't necessarily what is best in a given saddle. It is perhaps in theory, but will see just how good it works in practice.
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My hope is that in 5 yrs I won't have an additional 6 saddles crammed in a box in my workshop.
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Not at all. I am in the process of discovering how effective it is. But, I'm not judging it before the trial is finished. And, yes, the jury is always out until it's in.
I'll be interested in hearing your results once you have some time with the new saddle. I suppose anything that could help one narrow down the multitude of choices rather than just playing saddle roulette would be great.
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I probably tried 6-7 different saddles when I got started a few years ago. All 143 according to the Spech tool. I bought a fit in the same shop and my fitter used the same machine and he said I needed a 155. I bought on and instantly (almost) liked it. I have since purchased 3 other 155's of different makes and I like them all pretty much. Either the first guy didn't know how to read the butt pad correctly, or, there is room for interpretation.
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One of the things that became abundantly clear is different positions on the bike can make a serious difference in saddle comfort. I didn't realize how significant this could be.
Maybe more of a difference than the saddle itself??
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Originally Posted by squatchy
I probably tried 6-7 different saddles when I got started a few years ago. All 143 according to the Spech tool. I bought a fit in the same shop and my fitter used the same machine and he said I needed a 155. I bought on and instantly (almost) liked it. I have since purchased 3 other 155's of different makes and I like them all pretty much. Either the first guy didn't know how to read the butt pad correctly, or, there is room for interpretation.
The interpretation is the angle of the torso as you place your sitbones on the assmeter...it changes the sit bones spacing because of how the pelvis is shaped.
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We all love gadgets, especially marketers, and this one may help narrow the choices and point out which saddles have the best odds of fitting. But ultimately nothing will replace the assit test.
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So...the Trek/Bontrager magical ass-sizer tells you which kind of Trek/Bontrager saddle to buy....?
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Do you ever have Klingons around Uranus???
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Reminds me of the joke about how the Enterprise is like toilet paper...
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Originally Posted by bruce19
My hope is that in 5 yrs I won't have an additional 6 saddles crammed in a box in my workshop.
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I probably tried 6-7 different saddles when I got started a few years ago. All 143 according to the Spech tool. I bought a fit in the same shop and my fitter used the same machine and he said I needed a 155. I bought on and instantly (almost) liked it. I have since purchased 3 other 155's of different makes and I like them all pretty much. Either the first guy didn't know how to read the butt pad correctly, or, there is room for interpretation.
As a newb cyclist having problems finding a saddle that works, I'd certainly be willing to try this out, but I'm pretty sure that neither of the other two of these machines is at the Trek store here. Anything to help avoid trial-and-error at $100-200 a pop!

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