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Old 07-23-14, 01:33 AM
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note: will adjust to a 4-week bus pass for £69 if that is cheaper for comparison once I hit one 4-week period of commuting savings. this would provide a more accurate estimate of cost savings.

start date of first 4-week period: 22 JUL 2014
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
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clip ...
net money saved (bus fare saved minus running costs): £9.40
Buy something! Seat bag, repair tool, lights ...
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
Buy something! Seat bag, repair tool, lights ...
will do! maybe some new bar tape!

any suggestions that a fledgling commuter needs?

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Yeah, an internally geared hub!
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Yeah, an internally geared hub!
Fledgling and experienced commuters should consider IGH equipped with coaster brake. Best of all combinations for flexibility and practicality for all weather commuting.
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Actually, the coaster brake is the one part of the equation that I'm not thrilled about (my bike has one).

I hadn't used a coaster brake in about 25 years, since I was a child thrashing on a Huffy BMX bike, before I bought this bike. I had also never used an IGH except on a borrowed bike on an extremely short ride where everything was frozen in a single gear.

I'd prefer to be able to backpedal to find my starting foot-point, and I'd like to be able to use oil instead of high-temperature grease when rebuilding the hub. Besides, I don't have a problem with rim brakes in most situations. Having said this, for years I rode all of my miles on fixed gear bikes, and I like that, too. I think I want a disc-braked IGH, really! We'll see how the budget works out.
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I'd like to be able to use oil instead of high-temperature grease when rebuilding the hub.
How often do you think have to rebuild IGH/coaster hubs? Once a decade or so after heavy use is my experience with Sachs/SRAM products, only problem child I ever ran into was the long departed SA TCW 3 speed coaster. I don't have much experience with the Schimano offerings.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
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I try to make it break every day
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I am waiting for the orange bike to hit 10000km before doing any more math.
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I am waiting for the orange bike to hit 10000km before doing any more math.
makes the math easy, like SI units
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changed the background behind the bike to save the wall

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There seems to be some resentment to posting EuroPop videos, so this is a synopsis of Britain compared to Frankfurt, Copenhagen and Stockholm so far:


It's quite accurate from a language and landscape perspective.

The language may NOT be suitable for work, depending on where you work!
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a little bit of German festival music that I was at last year

https://soundcloud.com/dancefield/atb#t=960

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The suspense is almost palatable... will there be another 19km commute tomorrow ?



I like the idea of calculating that break even cost and have done that with my wife's bicycle which cost $900.00 and has seen 7 years of use and over 20,000 km without needing much more than one new set of tyres, several sets of brake pads, and a new chain (it has an IGH and full chaincase).

The current running cost is .22 / km and the cost of the bike was less than a year of bus passes so it's all win.

The running cost for my car shaped object over the past three years has also been cheaper than monthly bus passes (for a family of 4) and sits at .20 / km which includes servicing, fuel, and my purchase cost.

But then the car only cost $1.00
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The suspense is almost palatable... will there be another 19km commute tomorrow ?



I like the idea of calculating that break even cost and have done that with my wife's bicycle which cost $900.00 and has seen 7 years of use and over 20,000 km without needing much more than one new set of tyres, several sets of brake pads, and a new chain (it has an IGH and full chaincase).

The current running cost is .22 / km and the cost of the bike was less than a year of bus passes so it's all win.

The running cost for my car shaped object over the past three years has also been cheaper than monthly bus passes (for a family of 4) and sits at .20 / km which includes servicing, fuel, and my purchase cost.

But then the car only cost $1.00
1. No evidence is no calculation.
2. It could get very interesting quite soon as I have an interview for a "higher" professorship in London at the beginning of next month. So, I'd me moving again for a promotion, which is quite OK.
3. It's important to remember that a Real evaluation of a product is tedious but the end result is interesting (for example, your claim of 0.22 USD/mi has no validity as there is no evidence.)
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Originally Posted by acidfast7
1. No evidence is no calculation.
2. It could get very interesting quite soon as I have an interview for a "higher" professorship in London at the beginning of next month. So, I'd me moving again for a promotion, which is quite OK.
3. It's important to remember that a Real evaluation of a product is tedious but the end result is interesting (for example, your claim of 0.22 USD/mi has no validity as there is no evidence.)
I calculated the respective purchase costs, maintenance, and running costs against the respective mileage of each vehicle... sorry if I did not show my work professor.

As it is, not buying a bus pass every month more than paid for my wife's bicycle in less than a year when it needed nothing but to be ridden.

When I went car free and had no car payment, insurance premium, or operating expenses that saved me over 10k / year before I even calculated depreciation... I did that for 5 years.
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