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Old 03-30-14, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by v70cat
So silk is better than Kelvar.
By far. But the silk is typically replaced by cotton or polyester. The kevlar belt would be a separate layer (not present in those tires) and those tires don't have beads so there's no comparison to a kevlar beaded tire in that instance.
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So silk is better than Kelvar.
...when I shop for my frilly undergarments, I always go with silk. Kevlar is for body armor.
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Deda still makes silk tires.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Deda still makes silk tires.
Do they shrink when washed or dry clean only?
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL
Do they shrink when washed or dry clean only?
Did you ever wonder why people let air out of their race wheels when not in use?

It comes from the olden days and silks. It is pointless now but then the belief was that leaving them inflated would stretch the casing. I'm not sure if it's true or not but that was what was done and why many still do it.
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And now the topic is tires..whoa.
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...we finally came to a definitive answer on the original topic. Try to keep an open mind, please.
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Originally Posted by jdowdy411
And now the topic is tires..whoa.
Tubulars or clinchers ..... hmmmm .....
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.....there is a paucity of current tire threads. Can't be more than six or eight right now.
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Originally Posted by Drakonchik
One of my Suntour Command Shifter salads! When it comes to shifting I like to vary my diet.

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Originally Posted by achoo
OMG. Look at that! A humongous solid metal dork disk!
With a lever actuated derailleur, I think you get a pass on using a disc to keep the chain out of the spokes.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Did you ever wonder why people let air out of their race wheels when not in use?

It comes from the olden days and silks. It is pointless now but then the belief was that leaving them inflated would stretch the casing. I'm not sure if it's true or not but that was what was done and why many still do it.
I'll take your word on that.
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I had fun a couple days ago. My girlfriend and I were riding our $300 road bikes at a snail's pace. A bike racer whipped by us. I caught up to him and challenged him to a race to the small hill about a kilometer away. He confidently agreed. He increased his speed to lead-out speed. I sat on his wheel. At the last moment, I whipped by him and beat him to the top of the hill by several bike lengths. His excuse was that he just rode 100 miles.

He was riding an expensive road bike with carbon wheels. He is a lean 20-something bike racer, probably cat 2. I was riding a heavy $300 aluminum mail order bike with downtube shifters, toe clips, toe straps, $10 sneakers from Walmart, and baggy sweatpants. I am a 188-pound 44-year-old who has not raced since 1991. I beat him despite the fact that my chain skipped because I need a new chain and cassette. It is very enjoyable to ride faster than guys who have expensive bikes.

To be honest, I did have to stop after the sprint to rest because I felt like my lungs collapsed.

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If this is a true story, I feel slightly sad for you. Slightly. OK, your pathetic didn't dent my apathetic.
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Originally Posted by joe932
I had fun a couple days ago. My girlfriend and I were riding our $300 road bikes at a snail's pace. A bike racer whipped by us. I caught up to him and challenged him to a race to the small hill about a kilometer away. He confidently agreed. He increased his speed to lead-out speed. I sat on his wheel. At the last moment, I whipped by him and beat him to the top of the hill by several bike lengths. His excuse was that he just rode 100 miles.

He was riding an expensive road bike with carbon wheels. He is a lean 20-something bike racer, probably cat 2. I was riding a heavy $300 aluminum mail order bike with downtube shifters, toe clips, toe straps, $10 sneakers from Walmart, and baggy sweatpants. I am a 188-pound 44-year-old who has not raced since 1991. I beat him despite the fact that my chain skipped because I need a new chain and cassette. It is very enjoyable to ride faster than guys who have expensive bikes.

To be honest, I did have to stop after the sprint to rest because I felt like my lungs collapsed.
YAY! One for our side.
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Watching this thread develop over the past few days has been like watching the little kid next door grow into the most awkward late-teen you've ever met...
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Originally Posted by joe932
I had fun a couple days ago. My girlfriend and I were riding our $300 road bikes at a snail's pace. A bike racer whipped by us. I caught up to him and challenged him to a race to the small hill about a kilometer away. He confidently agreed. He increased his speed to lead-out speed. I sat on his wheel. At the last moment, I whipped by him and beat him to the top of the hill by several bike lengths. His excuse was that he just rode 100 miles.

He was riding an expensive road bike with carbon wheels. He is a lean 20-something bike racer, probably cat 2. I was riding a heavy $300 aluminum mail order bike with downtube shifters, toe clips, toe straps, $10 sneakers from Walmart, and baggy sweatpants. I am a 188-pound 44-year-old who has not raced since 1991. I beat him despite the fact that my chain skipped because I need a new chain and cassette. It is very enjoyable to ride faster than guys who have expensive bikes.

To be honest, I did have to stop after the sprint to rest because I felt like my lungs collapsed.
It's a pretty good troll, I will grant you that. I think it would have been more effective if you hadn't invent an imaginary category for him and if you had kept the fact that you used to race under wraps. The baggy sweats and the $10 sneakers were a nice touch though. I give it a 7.6 out of 10.
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It's a pretty good troll, I will grant you that. I think it would have been more effective if you hadn't invent an imaginary category for him and if you had kept the fact that you used to race under wraps. The baggy sweats and the $10 sneakers were a nice touch though. I give it a 7.6 out of 10.
lol. You think I made up the story?
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lol. You think I made up the story?
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Interesting. In that case, I challenge anyone on this thread to sprints. Best 2 out of 3 wins $200 from the loser. Each race will be one kilometer. I live near Fresno. I will use my $300 aluminum bike with downtube shifters. You can use any bike you wish as long as it does not have a motor, battery, or fairing. I reserve the right to use cycling shoes instead of sneakers. And I will wear cycling shorts instead of sweats.

To be eligible, you must have already posted on this thread. I don't want you to recruit the best sprinter you know.

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...can I just send you $200 and not be forced to go to Fresno ? Well worth it.
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Originally Posted by joe932
I had fun a couple days ago. My girlfriend and I were riding our $300 road bikes at a snail's pace. A bike racer whipped by us. I caught up to him and challenged him to a race to the small hill about a kilometer away. He confidently agreed. He increased his speed to lead-out speed. I sat on his wheel. At the last moment, I whipped by him and beat him to the top of the hill by several bike lengths. His excuse was that he just rode 100 miles.

He was riding an expensive road bike with carbon wheels. He is a lean 20-something bike racer, probably cat 2. I was riding a heavy $300 aluminum mail order bike with downtube shifters, toe clips, toe straps, $10 sneakers from Walmart, and baggy sweatpants. I am a 188-pound 44-year-old who has not raced since 1991. I beat him despite the fact that my chain skipped because I need a new chain and cassette.
7-speed cassettes are like $14. Same with chains.

Kilometers and miles in the same story - something's fishy here
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Originally Posted by joe932
Interesting. In that case, I challenge anyone on this thread to sprints. Best 2 out of 3 wins $200 from the loser. Each race will be one kilometer. I live near Fresno. I will use my $300 aluminum bike with downtube shifters. You can use any bike you wish as long as it does not have a motor, battery, or fairing. I reserve the right to use cycling shoes instead of sneakers. And I will wear cycling shorts instead of sweats.

To be eligible, you must have already posted on this thread. I don't want you to recruit the best sprinter you know.
Only if we both do a century leading up to the sprint.
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Originally Posted by joe932
I had fun a couple days ago. My girlfriend and I were riding our $300 road bikes at a snail's pace. A bike racer whipped by us. I caught up to him and challenged him to a race to the small hill about a kilometer away. He confidently agreed. He increased his speed to lead-out speed. I sat on his wheel. At the last moment, I whipped by him and beat him to the top of the hill by several bike lengths. His excuse was that he just rode 100 miles.

He was riding an expensive road bike with carbon wheels. He is a lean 20-something bike racer, probably cat 2. I was riding a heavy $300 aluminum mail order bike with downtube shifters, toe clips, toe straps, $10 sneakers from Walmart, and baggy sweatpants. I am a 188-pound 44-year-old who has not raced since 1991. I beat him despite the fact that my chain skipped because I need a new chain and cassette. It is very enjoyable to ride faster than guys who have expensive bikes.

To be honest, I did have to stop after the sprint to rest because I felt like my lungs collapsed.
You totally should have started a new thread for that story.
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