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Old 06-08-07, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sp00ki
There's some crazy hills everywhere. I just did a five minute hill with three mtb riders while i was on 47/16. Doing the same hill on my TT bike puts me COASTING at ~30mph easilly.
Everyone has hills. If her hills are too much for her to handle, why not get a freewheel?
Or, on the more supportive end, if hills are too much for her to handle, why doesn't she work a little harder? Know what i did last saturday? Spent four hours attacking hills.
Why? Because i don't want to get dropped when i ride with my mtb/cyclocross friends.
Know what i'm doing tomorrow morning?
Spending a few hours doing the same thing.
The only reason i'm not doing it on sunday is because my hilly routes are being taken up by the Philadelphia International Championship (check the manayunk leg for an example of some of our hills).
I think the reason everyone here is annoyed is that some girl decided she wanted to go the bike-as-an-accessory route, couldn't handle it, then decides to get on a little stage and announce about it instead of 1) doing a google search, 2) searching the very board she's posting in, or 3) spending more time on the hills and actually working at what she wants so badly to be (or at least to appear to be).


PS, i'm sorry but i have to:

what did they say when you told them you didn't know how to ride it?
Im sure you feel like a man after that and all... but they were talking about riding DOWN hills. See, thats the part where having brakes comes into the whole thing and the point of this thread.
There are few folks here that would ride down many of the hills in SF without brakes.

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Riding up isn't an/the issue. It's going down that makes me nervous. And yes, sometimes nervous enought to walk it. Especially if there's a hairy intersection.
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Yes, i know we're talking about down. What do you think happens after you get to the top of a hill? You take a shuttle down? Check out the part where i said
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Doing the same hill on my TT bike puts me COASTING at ~30mph easilly.
That's down (you can't coast up a hill, last time i checked).
The point i was trying to illustrate is, if you're going to spend a bunch of cash on a pimp bike, why don't you actually WORK at riding it instead of looking like some nu-skool fred? I haven't ever been up a hill that didn't require me to go down it. The one thing that holds true about people that LOVE to climb hills is that they know how to go down them. You resist.
My post had nothing to do with feeling like a man, but rather knowing what happens when you actually work at riding instead of just buying a flashy bike, putting insanely weak gearing on it, and calling yourself a cyclist.
Walking down a hill? You have to be kidding me...
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you're my hero.
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you're a fred.
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Originally Posted by sp00ki
you're a fred.

I think fred is the farthest thing from the truth that describes the op. her situation seems analogous to a either a 17 year old lance/racer boy wannabe with daddy's credit card, or a yuppie 30 year old lance wannabe.
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Fredette, if you don't mind. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Maracski
Riding up isn't an/the issue. It's going down that makes me nervous. And yes, sometimes nervous enought to walk it. Especially if there's a hairy intersection.
riding up will become an issue if you blindly change your gear ratio (why?) like you want to from 63 gear inches to 71...
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Originally Posted by sp00ki
Yes, i know we're talking about down. What do you think happens after you get to the top of a hill? You take a shuttle down? Check out the part where i said

That's down (you can't coast up a hill, last time i checked).
The point i was trying to illustrate is, if you're going to spend a bunch of cash on a pimp bike, why don't you actually WORK at riding it instead of looking like some nu-skool fred? I haven't ever been up a hill that didn't require me to go down it. The one thing that holds true about people that LOVE to climb hills is that they know how to go down them. You resist.
My post had nothing to do with feeling like a man, but rather knowing what happens when you actually work at riding instead of just buying a flashy bike, putting insanely weak gearing on it, and calling yourself a cyclist.
Walking down a hill? You have to be kidding me...
You really have no idea, do you?
The OP was talking about riding down without brakes. Hills with more than 30% gradients with ZERO run out at the bottom.
Not to mention the rougher than feck street surface of most of these hills.
I promise you there are more than a few hills there you wouldnt ride down...even a man like you.
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it looks like spooki is such a badass that there is no hill he's afraid to ride down brakeless...he cares not whether there is a busy instersection right at the bottom.
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Originally Posted by sirpoopalot
riding up will become an issue if you blindly change your gear ratio (why?) like you want to from 63 gear inches to 71...
Not exactly blindly. I rode for a week or so with 46/16 (75.6") before switching to 46/19. I was ok with 75.6" on the up hills. Though, I didn't attempt anything outreagous. I think 71.1" will be a nice compromise.
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Originally Posted by deathhare
You really have no idea, do you?
The OP was talking about riding down without brakes. Hills with more than 30% gradients with ZERO run out at the bottom.
Not to mention the rougher than feck street surface of most of these hills.
I promise you there are more than a few hills there you wouldnt ride down...even a man like you.
i ride down any hill..i gots a brake so i dony worry..with a brake you can do anything, more than what the silly brakeless riders do
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Originally Posted by piwonka
it looks like spooki is such a badass that there is no hill he's afraid to ride down brakeless...he cares not whether there is a busy instersection right at the bottom.
with a brake that's not an issue
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Originally Posted by sirpoopalot
with a brake that's not an issue
i understand that, but i threw the brakeless thang in there since spooki got so emotional about the OP wanting to put a brake on her bike.
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Originally Posted by sirpoopalot
with a brake that's not an issue
*Ding Ding* Wasn't that the point of my post. Putting a brake on so it wouldn't be an issue. Full Circle!
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Originally Posted by Maracski
*Ding Ding* Wasn't that the point of my post. Putting a brake on so it wouldn't be an issue. Full Circle!
i think the thread is now finished.

i pronounce this thread over!
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Originally Posted by sirpoopalot
i think the thread is now finished.

i pronounce this thread over!
Unless you have a drilled track fork to recommend or sell. Then just PM me.
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as a lady, i'd like to thank the guys that did help with some info. as for the others, i know where u guys are coming from, but u guys need to calm down. These mentality isn't helping to advance the scene/sport or whatever u want to call it. my boys in nyc are very supportative of the few girls that ride njs brakeless bikes. and if i wanted to put a brake on my bridgestone, i doubt they would sit there and try and make me feel like crap about it.
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Originally Posted by deathhare
You really have no idea, do you?
The OP was talking about riding down without brakes. Hills with more than 30% gradients with ZERO run out at the bottom.
Not to mention the rougher than feck street surface of most of these hills.
I promise you there are more than a few hills there you wouldnt ride down...even a man like you.
Not for nothing, but i really wouldn't have problems going down a hill that someone who's been riding for three months is ok climbing on 46/17 gearing.
I know there are insane hills in san fran, but these obviously aren't the ones she's descending.

but yeah, this is pointless. i'm arguing with a stranger about something that's really not that important, and a simple google/board search would answer for her anyway.

good luck finding your new part.

but seriously, my advice at taking hills is hitting them often when there's less traffic (while your brake is on, for safety's sake) as much as possible. you should be able to tackle your environment. if you can't, pushing yourself and making a training routine out of pushing yourself is super rewarding.
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Originally Posted by sp00ki
someone who's been riding for three months...
Riding fixed for 4 mos. Riding a bike for 21 yrs.
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Whatever, i've been riding since i was four.
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Originally Posted by sp00ki
Whatever, i've been riding since i was four.
Again, you win!
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Duh, it's the internet.

Anyway, good luck with yr part and yr hills.
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Originally Posted by Maracski
It's ok. I just don't understand why so many people get so riled up so quickly. Gee whiz boys pipe down already. I like what you said re: porche. Truth is, if I could afford one, I would prolly drive a Porche.

Porsche isn't NJS!!!!
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Originally Posted by sp00ki
My post had nothing to do with feeling like a man, but rather knowing what happens when you actually work at riding instead of just buying a flashy bike, putting insanely weak gearing on it, and calling yourself a cyclist.
Walking down a hill? You have to be kidding me...
Oh grow up. Going down hills on a fixed can be really sketchy, and brakeless can be difficult and/or dangerous. Riding isn't always about proving something, or being 'pure', or doing the 'right' thing. Sometimes it's omg FUN. If something's not fun, then don't do it.

Track bike geometry is super-maneuverable and fun. Brakeless down a hill isn't - for some. Why are you begrudging a total stranger their choices? Who the heck are you to pass judgement?
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