Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Utility Cycling Want to haul groceries, beer, maybe even your kids? You don't have to live car free to put your bike to use as a workhorse. Here's the place to share and learn about the bicycle as a utility vehicle.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-11-13, 07:00 PM   #1
storckm
Cyclist
Thread Starter
 
storckm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Columbus, OH
Bikes: Yuba Mundo; Early 70's Free Spirit (Reynolds 531) fixie; 80's Shogun 500; Mid 90's Iron Horse tandem; trailer and tag-a-long; Schwinn Range for commuting, with lights and front and rear racks.
Posts: 559
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Schwalbe Marathon Supreme or Big Apple for my Yuba Mundo

I'm replacing the original tire in my Yuba Mundo, and want something that will last a long time and won't get many flats. I've patched two flats so far, and it's not too easy.

My first thought was the Schwalbe Marathon Supreme. However, the widest Supreme made is two inches wide, the same width as the original tire, and I'm wondering whether a wider tire would make a difference. The Big Apple can be had as wide as 2.35", and Surly makes some even wider tires.

What do you think?
storckm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-13, 08:41 PM   #2
salek
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arlington, TX
Bikes: 1984 Takara 490 Challenge
Posts: 103
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
After being stupid enough to change my sport bike from one-and-a-quarter to metric thin tires, I learned that fat is good. The BD came with Swalbe (Swallow) Big Apple (Gross Apfeln) tires. I try to run the widest tires that I can on my fleet. Wide tires with lower pressure seems to reduce my maintenance issues. I also run Mr. Tuffy liners in the tires. Big honking difference in the flat category!.
I think and suggest that the Mr. Tuffy product is more important than the tire.
salek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-13, 04:53 AM   #3
Burton
Certified Bike Brat
 
Burton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Bikes:
Posts: 4,251
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The Big Apples are excellent tires and while they may not be as light as the Marathon Supremes or have quite the same puncture protection - they are available in larger sizes. If you have the clearance - go for it! My largest tires are 2.5 and a anti-flat protection like Zefal aerosol sealant or FlatAttack in the tubes solves flat issues.
Burton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-13, 10:27 AM   #4
boberuddy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bucks County PA
Bikes:
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have the Big Apple 26x2.35, and have had no flats so far in a year of use. They roll much better than stock tires as well. I did install with Slime tubes, as changing the back wheel would be a hassle on the road. I hate the dropouts on the Yuba rear!
boberuddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-13, 02:41 AM   #5
Unkabuzz
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Kenda

I'm going to be using Kenda Kiniption 26 X 2.3 tires on my Yuba Mundo, just because I can put 80 PSI in them. Definitely looking into heavy tubes or Mr. Tuffy or something like that also........
Unkabuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-13, 12:27 AM   #6
busted knuckles
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: wa
Bikes:
Posts: 411
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
will a bigger tire cause any chain rub?
busted knuckles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-13, 06:05 AM   #7
tim24k
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NW
Bikes: To many to list. I like them all!
Posts: 529
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I run 26X2.35 Big Apples on my Big Dummy, they had the best weight rating of 140kg at the time. And on cargo bikes load capacity that’s what it’s all about! Also no flats and it rides so very nicely.
tim24k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-13, 08:18 AM   #8
boberuddy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bucks County PA
Bikes:
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I had slight rub, but my Yuba is a custom build with one chainring on the front. i put in a slightly wider BB, and have no problems now. Not sure how the stock setup would work, but it is fixable with the right BB. I have the fat Big Apples mentined above.
boberuddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-13, 08:44 AM   #9
mustang1
Senior Member
 
mustang1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: London, UK
Bikes: 2006 road bike, 2012 cx bike, 2012 carbon rb, 2014 hardtail
Posts: 2,714
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i used marathons a few times. 700x35. i can only compare them to conti cx tires (same size). idk why, the marathons seem to roll slower. either that or i got out of shape by the time i tried these tires (hadnt ridden for a couple of months). the cx tires SEEEMED to ride softer yet faster but got plenty punctures. apart from speed and expense, marathom seem ok to me.
mustang1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-13, 10:42 PM   #10
owenfinn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yokohama, Japan
Bikes: Marin Muirwoods 29er, Pacific Carryme, Yuba Mundo, Dahon Boardwalk D7
Posts: 479
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
The stock 2.125" Kendas on my Mundo are on their last legs. Thinking about what I should replace them with now. I have Big Apples on my small wheeled folding bike and love `em comfort wise but, I`d like to go slightly higher pressure and as wide as possible for the Mundo. I was thinking either 2.3" Kiniptions or 2.25" It`s Intense Micro-knobbies. I like the 2.5" Hookworms but chain-rub would be a problem. Any thoughts? Would these make for too harsh of a ride?
owenfinn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-13, 08:39 AM   #11
sjt78
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Western NY
Bikes:
Posts: 317
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I would recommend the large big apples as well. I run them around40-50 psi and they roll so smoothly. They are not what is slowing me down on my 10 mile commute. I really had no idea I'd love them so much. I almost didn't get them thinking they might be too big. Luckily the place I got them only carries that size.
sjt78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-13, 05:22 PM   #12
Unkabuzz
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by boberuddy View Post
i put in a slightly wider BB, and have no problems now.
I am building up my mundo from a frame and ready to order a pile of parts including a Bottom bracket. What size did you put on yours and do you think it would clear a "2-chainring" setup as well? Any idea what the stock BB width is?

Thanks
Unkabuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-13, 07:38 AM   #13
boberuddy
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bucks County PA
Bikes:
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I used 113mm bottom bracket on a Redline crankset. I have a single chainring on the outside, and the chain grazes the tire when on the largest cog. I have the "Big Apple 26x2.35" and love them. I built from bare frame as well, and don'y know what stock is????
boberuddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-13, 10:13 AM   #14
coldbike
The wizard of ...
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Bikes: single speed Krampus, burley piccolo, salsa mukluk ti, CETMA cargo bike, M5 Shockproof,
Posts: 135
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The big apples roll faster when heavily loaded, but the marathon supremes are faster rolling at more moderate loads. I do not use mr tuffy liners, since they consistently make me at least 1 gear slower. The marathon supremes have excellent puncture protection built in, and the big apples also have some protection built in. I have big apples on 4 of my bikes.
coldbike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-13, 12:32 PM   #15
Unkabuzz
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by boberuddy View Post
I used 113mm bottom bracket on a Redline crankset.
I found out the stock bottom bracket is a 68X120mm. The closest I can find online are 118 or 121mm. I'm going to run a 2 speed chainring setup on the front and a 8 speed on the rear. The 121mm BB should give plenty of clearance with the 2.3 inch Kiniptions. I think adding liners won't be a problem at high PSI and a 2880 watt electric hub motor in the front. The motor weighs 18lbs. and the batteries are 25lbs. I'll keep the batteries in the back.
Unkabuzz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-13, 06:17 PM   #16
stevel610 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Valley Forge: Birthplace of Freedom
Bikes:
Posts: 487
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I love Big Apples. I have a pair with 26 x 2.15 on the rear and 26 x 2.35 front. AWESOME. I got a Novara Safari for which I ordered 28 x 2.0 Big Apples. They are very good and lighter, but not as cush as the larger tire. I think I might switch them out to the larger size. It's hard to explain how sweet the ride of these balloon tires are without experiencing it. Once you ride them, you'll like them.
__________________
Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.
stevel610 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-13, 07:17 PM   #17
Trower
Bus Stop Ratbag
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Northern Maine
Bikes:
Posts: 54
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I really love Schwalbe's new Big Ben's. Really great tire, like it better than the big apple's.
Trower is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:05 AM.