Originally Posted by
queerpunk
no, that's not true, because they guy who made 3renshos - yoshi konno - is dead.
like many other keirin frame companies, watanabe makes nice bikes.
Ok thanks. I'm stuck between two choices right now. I can either get that used Watanabe for prolly $600 or I can get a new custom Marinoni Pista for around $680.

Which would be better?
The Marinoni has some good Columbus Zona steel, but the Watanabe only has Tange 1 tubing.
But the Watanabe might look slightly better.
New or old?
hmm...