Well Rayin, I think we beat this to death, If I remember correctly, you took the first shot. I bought it because I need the room for bikes and riders, and to tow heavy loads on a regular basis both for pleasure and for work, It never rolls lightly loaded, I have a justy for that (43 mpg), it's scary car, I feel safer on the bike. I agree with the misuse of the vehicle and others like it. I feel everyone should cycle whenever possible, that's how I rack up so many miles on the bike. Soccer mom's should drive mini-vans. Have fun and keep turnin the cranks.