Originally Posted by coasting

many people ride a road bike with clipless and also have a more convenient get about/commuting bike without clipless pedals because clipless are just not good for hop on hop off riding. I do, and when you ride both, all these semantics arguments are pointless. say what you will but riding both tells me clipless is far superior performance-wise and far inferior convenience-wise.

of all my cycling purchases, clipless pedals is the one single upgrade that made the most difference to my cycling performance and most immediate.

those adamant clipless are no better....maybe you want to go back to the days of coal and steam engines or maybe even hore drawn carriages.