Thanks, I'm on the vintage trek site right now as well, I just found out that 1983 was the first use of Mangaloy, stsrting with the 400 models. The guy just called me back and its got 27"tires and downtube shifters so now I am debating if its worth the 1hr20min drive to check it out. for 100 bucks IDK...what do you guys think?