Yea, dans has definately made some shady dealings. They are a very large company and diliver good for the most part. I have only had a few problems in the dozens of transactions I've made with them. But faking T-shirts is not just a deal of "just an f-ing shirt." they didnt make shirts wrong, they went and made fake terrible 1 shirts and they were supposed to have sold them for terrible 1. It's a very big deal. That's stealing money from a great bmx company and it's a horrible thing to do. I stopped ordering from dans for a while when i heard about that, but have gotten a few things from there afterwards. I like Staff alot better, the only problem is they are alot smaller and dont have as nice a catalog, although they always have what i need. they are a rider ownded company and if I had to choose just one company to order from, it would be staff. Dan's is fast, Dan's is for the most part reliable, Dan's is huge, so why not order from them, but the fact is they are not the only bmx distributer in the country and smaller companies need customers too. and as far as saying to forcibly insert staff and those other companies in to some one's anus.. not cool. Just because dan's has riders work for them doesent mean its rider owned. And dont say i havent had any deailings with dans because based on your posts I've had quite a few more than you. Dan's does run a decent mail order company. Order from where you want, it doesent really matter as long as you're happy.