not being sarcastic, just feeling a little silly that that was doing nothing but moisturizing. It has use as a sunblock too, is it effective in that regard I wonder? As far as my conditions, as I said in my post, I'll go to single digits with nothing on the face but only for about 40 minutes. Wind chill temps on descents are anybody's guess. I guess that's not harsh enough conditions for frost bite.

I do have the softest cheeks in the commuter forum though I bet, reptilian looking or not!

Oh and, somebody forgot to tell them...

http://2010winterolympicsvancouver.c...screen-and.cfm

From that: A two-year clinical study by the Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine concluded that Dermatone protects exposed skin two times longer against frostbite than any other product tested. Winter sports enthusiasts have been saving their skin for years from windburn, frostbite and sunburn with Dermatone's cold weather protection products.